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My wife and I both smoke, and in an effort cut down (to eventually quit), we got e-cigarettes. These have proven to us to be most effective, and are nice because the concept is SO much cheaper than "real" cigarettes, nowhere NEAR the chemicals and no tobacco, and there is absolutely no smell what so ever - the "smoke" is actually vapor.

This was a question posed on MSNBC's website recently, based on an article that says that the US D.O.T. may "ban" the use of e-cigarettes on flights. There is absolutely no reason to at all. There is no second-hand harm that can be done, no smell, the vapor "trail" evaporates in about one full second, it's like one isn't even smoking at all.

I'm not posing this question as a quest for anyone to "pick sides" with me or anything like that, I'm just curious to hear others' thoughts and opinions on the matter.

Personally, I don't see why not. I think e-cigarettes are a safe solution, and SECOND-HAND-harm-free, to where I could be sitting next to a non-smoker, who hates cigarettes, and if they didn't see me puff on it, they wouldn't even know...! I my opinion, I think it's the fact that DOT probably ran out of things to ban/control, so now they're picking on this. I've sat net to people on flights that smelled like they haven't showered in 3 months. I've sat next to people chewing the most GOD AWFUL flavor chewing gum or wearing the most repugnant perfume. All these things would offend me more than a stupid e-cigarette that no one even knows about unless you tell them.

Just my two cents...

(for reference, here is the MSNBC article)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41530424/ns/travel-news/

asked Feb 11 '11 at 11:44

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edited Feb 11 '11 at 18:37

So this was never banned? Wow, I thought it would be.

(Aug 12 '11 at 18:49) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

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There seems to be an extreme lack of any scientific research done into what these e cigs actually contain. I work for a cancer charity and we had a training day on anti smoking, I was told by the local stop smoking service that nobody knows what is in them, and they are likely to be band soon. There are other products that have been tested like the inhaler but not the e cig, so I think until they can prove that the vapour in them is harmless they will stay banned on flights.

answered Feb 11 '11 at 13:00

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Thinking like this is exactly what's wrong with America. We used to default to the state of freedom (do what you want) and ban things as they were deemed bad. Now we default to the state of bad and decide which individual freedoms we want to allow.

(Aug 12 '11 at 19:06) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

@tsilb All suspects are guilty until proven innocent.

(Aug 12 '11 at 22:09) TechNinja TechNinja's gravatar image

As long as they can't be used to hide a detonation/explosive device, and there is no combustion or RF interference- yes, they should be allowed.

From a Public Health POV, tobacco harm reduction should be promoted in any way possible, and allowing eCigs on flights is one of those ways.

Disclaimer: I used to smoke (even on Airplanes!), currently use Snus, but have never used an eCig, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

answered Feb 11 '11 at 13:20

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I personally rather like the e-cigs. I don't smoke and have no intention of starting, but if I did - I think they are a safer(ish, as they still have nicotine attributes) alternative to actual cigarettes.

As for them being on airplanes, I don't see the problem. Perhaps the amount of people who might complain would be a deterrent from allowing them - I can picture anyone who "vapors" (as opposed to "smokes") one would be dealing with a lot of evil glares, questions, and possibly very angry passengers. A lot of people that don't know how to mind their own business and aren't educated on e-cigs yet.

And if I'm correct, some of the flavored (um, oils?) have a certain smell that comes along with the vapors - I've never experienced a bad one, but that's what I understand.

answered Feb 11 '11 at 12:09

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yes they should, the relevant argument for banning anything on a flight is if it's dangerous, could be used as a weapon, reduces air quality, effects other passengers or has a pungent smell.

there are none of these issues with an E-cigarette, a ban would just be discriminating against smokers.

answered Feb 11 '11 at 14:48

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and i'm guessing the huge tobacco companies are behind the move to ban them, there don't really like anyone cutting into there business, and they have huge power over airline rules. There the ones who pay big money to allow lighters and match's onto flights!

(Feb 19 '11 at 23:40) roguekiller23231 roguekiller23231's gravatar image

You can really think about the safety issues with this one. You have a rigid metal object in your mouth. If the plane, train, or car for that matter bucks back or forward enough you will end up with it lodged in the soft tissue in your mouth or throat. Hard enough and it may penetrate bone. I use a very sweet e-liquid in a soft plastic bottle to just drip on my tongue when the situation gets dicey. Being from a cold climate outside is a good place because the real cold damages the cigarettes too. I've burned out four atomizers this winter so far.

answered Feb 11 '11 at 13:03

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To respond to ChiefDoobie. Hey buddy please stop spreading rumors. The electronic cigarette is nowhere near being banned. It is simply a battery operated fog machine. The actors guild commissioned a study with the OSHA proving theatrical fog machines are safe years ago (1992). That being said Urban Myth debunked!

answered Feb 11 '11 at 13:09

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Good article I was passing on what I was told yesterday by a professional anti smoking group that said the UK government is looking into it as they need more research done onto what's in them. There are also numerous other chemicals that go into those ecigs that give them flavour what these consist of is the question here. Granted it is a lot better than smoking a real cigarette, but as there have been no proper trails done on them and they are in question. I mean you would not take a medication not knowing what is in it or what the side effects would be.

Also well done for attempting to give up

(Feb 11 '11 at 16:44) chiefdoobie chiefdoobie's gravatar image

I HATE smokers. I can't stand to be near someone smoking. If someone near me lights up, I'll get up and leave, or, failing that, start coughing loudly (although the message doesn't usually get through).

With that in mind, I have nothing against an electric cigarette. As you said, there are no second-hand effects whatsoever. I personally think that they should be fine having them on a plane, or in any other place where cigarettes are not traditionally allowed. With the exception, perhaps, of hospitals — just in case.

Although I still don't think I could stand the breath of someone who smokes frequently being next to me for a long flight.

EDIT: Also, congratulations to you two for trying to quit.

answered Feb 11 '11 at 13:19

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That's the other thing about e-cigs that are nice...it doesn't ruin your breath or change it really in any way.

(Feb 11 '11 at 13:53) Rizzy Rizzy's gravatar image

and thanks...it's already made a change with me at least. I find myself taking one or two drags on it, and not touching it for a good 2-3 hours or so.

(Feb 11 '11 at 13:54) Rizzy Rizzy's gravatar image

Wow, congratulations! And I didn't know it doesn't have a negative effect on your breath. That puts it well up in my book :)

(Feb 21 '11 at 09:19) Zagorath Zagorath's gravatar image

Here is a link to Wikipedia about the studies done on the issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_machine

answered Feb 11 '11 at 13:24

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answered Feb 11 '11 at 16:48

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Chiefdoobie, All the herbal medication that one can take is not FDA approved either, but we do not hear much about them being banned.. guess it is just too big of a business or might offend the health minded population with all their herbal and "natural cures" I am suggesting you are one of them.. just food for thought. I vape an e-cig and think they are a great alternative to smoking. I would hope they would like you vape on the airplane..The only objection I can see that they could offer is the security issue.

answered Feb 19 '11 at 15:50

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