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I've been planning to buy a PC. and I'm very much particular with its graphics.

so, How do i determine if it can cut a really nice Display for gaming?

i'm pretty sure it's not the GB that counts right?

and most of them are coated in such a beautiful box, but the box could be really deceiving plus I also know how to read a Dx diag, just don't know what each item means.

im asking about the box because if I DxDiag it, it means I already unboxed the thing, no exchange no return. So what should be written in the box?

thanks!

asked Aug 23 '11 at 03:02

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PS: i also know what's worse and what's best., the trouble is when comparing the seemingly even video cards., plus i want to get every performance, quality and durability with every centavo i spend everybody feels the same way right? so any help is much appreciated. thanks!

(Aug 23 '11 at 06:25) xedric14 xedric14's gravatar image

I can't say from experience with much hardware, but these are my views and how I would go about it.

While some numbers can't be compared directly between differing brands, there are some basic features to look for.

There are increasingly capable GPU's mounted on modern motherboards, but if gaming is to be taken into account then a dedicated unit will offer better performance and more choice.

There is a standard set of instructions and capabilities which are supported by the hardware and software called DirectX.

Periodically due to progression in technology a new version of this is defined, and will get physical support in newer hardware. The current standard of that is DirectX 11, and that should be the version you look for the GPU supporting.

The type of monitor or display you intend to use will have an impact, since not all will have the same output interfaces. Digital outputs such as HDMI and DVI are perferable over D-Sub/VGA, but you will need to take into account what you are capable of connecting to your monitor/TV. Though there are various adaptors to convert between some, and certainly from VGA/D-Sub to DVI if I recall.

Many of those features however may not be listed on the literature or display for the computer, so it may require some research online to determine the features of specific models.

As for brand there are two primary ones, ATI/AMD and Nvidia. While they tend to offer their own features or support, particularly with multi-card or multiple-displays, if you intend to only use a single card and single monitor then you shouldnt need to worry as to which you get so much. Nvidia do seem generally accepted as having the hardware with more capability or "bang per buck" (to borrow from another comment), with ATI/AMD being more budget orientated, but for many users that will not be a significant difference.

answered Aug 23 '11 at 03:29

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edited Aug 23 '11 at 04:15

I agree with EnvoyOfTheEnd's answer, and want to add some more. Please dont judge what you want to buy by the packaging alone. I bought my friends a lot of IT stuff, and being an asian, we tend to buy something that offers more bang for the buck. And ususally, most well known brand would put up a lot of "extras" that is "Free with purchase" whatever crap that is.

Gamers edition, extreme edition, TOP edition, most of the are usually bundled with games or/and other things that is actually can be much cheaper if you buy it saperately (We buy second hand games, or trade them).

For actual performance, visit your local IT store and see for yourself for your budget, what can you get and write them down. In my place we can actually download pricelists and from that pricelist I can do some homework and google some benchmark.

hope this helps.

answered Aug 23 '11 at 03:50

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Well, if you want to know if it will work, make sure you check how much power it needs, how much RAM you need for it to work, and the size. I find that the most important. Then, check the display ports. That's about it.

answered Aug 23 '11 at 04:19

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yeah, each graphics card has a wide variety of specifications, such as the available memory bandwith, the pipelines, the core speed, the shader speed, memory speed, memory bus width, memory type GDDR5 IS ALL YOU WANT. NOT DDR3 OR GDDR3 VRAM if it shares any memory with the main system for video (gddr5 is always dedicated, while gddr3/ddr3 is almost always shared, resulting in less general performance) the direct technology, 11 is the latest, shader version max supported and other things. there's also a guide to decoding the performance level of the card. like for example, if you wanted a 6990 or a 590 this is how it'd be figured so the 6 is the sixth generation ati gpus the 9 is the performance level, the highest it gets the 9 is also a measure of performance level. 0 is also just there, means nothing at all

so to make it a tad simpler, if you wanted a new GPU, and you wanted to buy a gaming card, the 7, 8 and 9 series offer the best performance, because the 5 and 4s are very low level and the 3 2 and 1s are just basic performance cards for everyday tasks. i believe the same system would apply for nVidia's as well.

for example GTX 590 Ti 5 would be the video card generation 9 would be the performance level 0 is also just there, no true meaning.

hope this helped!

answered Aug 23 '11 at 04:47

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is that a standard way of naming video cards? is that true for ATI and NVIDIA?? the guy above is true, i don't trust any other brand other than ATI and NVIDIA... the 2 are hardly distinguishable... hey do you mean i could determine the performance by the name? @.@

(Aug 23 '11 at 06:18) xedric14 xedric14's gravatar image

in a sense, yes. you do have to have a certain level of understanding when it comes to the specs of the video card in order to ensure you're getting a good deal, and honestly as far as NVIDIA cards go, you're best off with PNY in my opinion, because they offer the same exact card but cheaper priced. ATI i'd reccomend HIS.

(Aug 23 '11 at 06:35) firebirdtransam firebirdtransam's gravatar image

hey guys, you really twist my mind a LOT!! this things make my hurt you know? my mind's not ready to absorb maybe? hahhaha i'll read again later hoping to be more enlightened.

it's really awful that i have to check a lot of specs for a single pc component. but its the most important, so i'm hoping for more answers..

anyway to add some more trouble, my graphics card says 1gb., and yet,. when i used CPUID, it said 257mb dedicated and 750mb shared?! wtf. i thought it was 1gb dedicated? i mean., there's a really big chance we could get the wrong impression.

my friend has an intel gfx card 1.5gb and I wonder why it can't play the nba2k11 the way i did with my 1gb ati mobility radeon hd 4330...

I haven't read your comments yet, cause i gtg., but i appreciate this community as much as I appreciate Facebook!! :)) regards...

answered Aug 23 '11 at 06:13

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*head hurt @Aizuddin Yusoff Aki which country are you? i'm in Philippines

(Aug 23 '11 at 06:21) xedric14 xedric14's gravatar image

The only way to determine a GPU's actual prowess without spending thousands to compare them yourself, is to go online and search for benchmarks. Also, you'd have to research on how much they would cost around your area as you wouldn't want to blow your budget on something weak.

The numbers game when it comes to how much memory available for use by the GPU is invalid, unless we're comparing high end GPUs like the GTX580 or a 6970. Between lower and middle class GPUs, the memory clock(MHz) together with the memory interface(64/128/256bit) determine how well your GPU utilizes that memory.

You have a dedicated GPU on your LAPTOP, which usually means it has it's own dedicated memory plus shared memory from the RAM on your laptop.

answered Aug 23 '11 at 08:25

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do you mean that if the GPU is INDEPENDENT of the whole system, it actually has a 256mb? and why the F did they say it's 1Gb?

or

is it that my GPU uses 256mb for itself and shares the rest 750 together with the installed 2048 to use when for example: gaming ?

(Aug 23 '11 at 14:31) xedric14 xedric14's gravatar image

Your laptop's GPU has only 256MB of memory, the rest is taken from the RAM.

(Aug 24 '11 at 18:31) Billy Aoki Billy%20Aoki's gravatar image

would it matter tho? i mean, between 64, 128 and 256, does 256 always mean "best" and among all the memory clock (MHz) does a higher number mean better performance? and what is the least acceptable memory clock to play a game like nba2k11? thanks!

(Aug 25 '11 at 03:11) xedric14 xedric14's gravatar image
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