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So guys, the developer preview has been out for a few days now. Those who have downloaded it, what do you think about the UI? I downloaded it and personally, I despise the "Start" screen. I grew up on Windows 95 and I like my "pull down" start menu, not a seperate screen. No matter where I looked I couldn't turn it off either! I will keep downloading new releases, but if that Start screen doesn't go away (or an option to turn it off) I will not be buying Windows 8. It feels so disorganized. When I sit at my desktop, I want to see a regular screen, not something optimized for a touch screen. I like my mouse! And they also need to unclutter the ribbons. The only good thing I see is for it to be a Dev pre-release, it is pretty stable. So, there's my rant on it, what do you think?

asked Sep 15 '11 at 09:58

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remember this was and is for the developers. that said i expected a lot of stuff not to be in it yet. microsour only released it for everyone in the hopes of getting even more feed back than they did with 7. the metro gui in the finally product according to them will be off by default. since this release is for the developers it does make since to have it on by default.

(Sep 15 '11 at 11:56) Chuckys Child Chuckys%20Child's gravatar image

I, like others here, don't like how when I'm in the traditional desktop, when I hit the Start button it brings me back to metro UI. Don't get me wrong, I like metro, but please for desktop users' sake, bring back the normal start menu.

answered Sep 15 '11 at 11:48

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This is a DEVELOPER PREVIEW for people developing for the start screen. It has been publicly stated, and shown in videos, that the normal start menu will exist in the final version.

This build is for people to practice making software for the new start screen: it really isn't designed at all for us to be "trying out" like it will be the final version of the OS. It's focus really IS the start screen.

Wait till the public beta's to really pass judgement. This build is for one particular task, not to act as a demonstration of the final OS idea.

(Sep 15 '11 at 11:51) Kurisu Kurisu's gravatar image

Developers should be able to see both sides, not just it being assumed that its metro or nothing. Only a minority of laptop/desktop users will have touch, so putting the emphasis on the minority of users is not a good way to start. Therefore the desktop experience should be representative of the final product too.

(Sep 15 '11 at 12:51) EnvoyOfTheEnd EnvoyOfTheEnd's gravatar image

The Start Menu should be there, no matter if its a developer preview or not. Developers need to be able to make apps for BOTH desktops, not just the Metro UI. If it was only for the Metro UI, then they are avoiding a huge chunk of Windows 8 that a lot of users will probably use besides Metro. Plus, they need to be able to get their apps to integrate with the 2 different Desktop Environments in order to keep stability.

(Sep 15 '11 at 21:06) JordanV JordanV's gravatar image

Faster startup, better task manager.

As for the cons however I will echo what you said.

The metro UI and lack of choice regarding its use is awful for a non-touch system. There is no means to properly close a metro application, instead it being "suspended" when metro is not being used or if the app is inactive for a given period of time. Both of which may help the CPU usage but do nothing about the ram usage and simply add more running applictions to swich through.

The shutdown and restart options are hidden under a "Settings" menu which I found rather counter-intuitive.

So far I am not terribly impressed unless the experience with metro is much improved for more traditional pc hardware or we have the option to do without it entirely.

answered Sep 15 '11 at 10:45

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Actually, I am enjoying it quite a bit. The start screen feels right, works without being clunky (read: Unity in Ubuntu) and it just seems to be a proper evolution.

Keep in mind this build is designed for developers to try out programming FOR the start screen. If you look at some prior win8 videos, you can see the normal start menu in action.

I honestly thought I would despise the start screen, and until I started actually messing with it, I did. Now that I have toyed around with it, and seen how it integrates with the classic desktop, I am quite pleased with this evolution. Microsoft "did it right" this time, in my eyes, with something that can actually be used on any configuration.

Don't get me wrong, I love the classic start menu and the like: I just think the Start Screen is a good addition.

The ribbon interface to explorer is not as well liked by me, however. It is just kind of clunky and ugly.. I would much rather just use the eternal keyboard shortcuts I grew up using. Thankfully, it is trivial to minimize the ribbon, and just leave a few useful new features in view on the otherwise Win7 style window.

Otherwise, as I see it, I really think 8 will be good. Even if you hate the start screen, MS has said explicitly that it WILL be able to be basically turned off in the final versions!

Think about it for a moment. I absolutely hate tablet computers, their interfaces, and the like. I love Linux, and Ubuntu, but am actually giving up core Ubuntu all because of Unity. If I am saying that I actually LIKE the start screen, in my normal PC environment, then it has to have done something right in my eyes.

Of course, each person can have their own preferences, but in the end, the first few seconds with this build changed my opinion fully.

answered Sep 15 '11 at 10:50

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I guess everyone likes different things (D'oh). Growing up on Windows 95, I have become accustomed to the normal start menu. I had no idea that they were going to have an option to disable Metro. I have always been a Windows user and an Ubuntu user. I have 10.04LTE in a virtual machine! I just like traditional stuff. What is amazing is how much Microsoft worked before releasing the Dev build. Everything just worked! I will stay in with Microsoft throughout beta stages and giving feedback where I see fit.

(Sep 15 '11 at 11:09) guineaphinea guineaphinea's gravatar image

See, I am the SAME WAY! I'm 26, so Win95, Mac OS7, and later evolutions, are what I think of when I think of computers, and how to interface with them, so I came at this from the same POV you did. Like I mention, I HATE Unity with a passion, and I originally hated what I saw with the Start screen. Upon playing around with it, I saw how smoothly it went to the wayside, and that basically, when you wanted a desktop, you got a desktop, and vice versa... so it gained my respect.

I would certainly prefer to just have an evolution to Win7, but the abilities this screen opens up, WITHOUT giving up anything else that we know in windows, is a wonderful choice in the evolution of the product... to me, anyway.

(Sep 15 '11 at 11:15) Kurisu Kurisu's gravatar image

I will have to mess around with it some more... I will just make myself. Who knows, my view point might change.

(Sep 15 '11 at 11:35) guineaphinea guineaphinea's gravatar image

It might not change, but at least you know you tried your best! Also, when the general use betas get released, you could let MS know just what you really think! :D

(Sep 15 '11 at 11:37) Kurisu Kurisu's gravatar image

the big thing i liked was using my live login. i like the idea of someday being able to simply drag files from the comp to skydrivre without having to open the browser and login again just to get to skydrive. i also like having my online username linked to my username on the comp since i use the same for both.

answered Sep 15 '11 at 12:00

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I love the Metro UI. I love the Windows UI. I hate how it switches between them. There just has to be a better way to implement Metro... Don't get mewrong, I understand that this release is for people developing for the start screen, I just feel that it's really awkward the way they have implemented it...

answered Sep 15 '11 at 15:43

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I like it, I think it would be a greater leap of faith if they got rid of the old school start menu and just had the metro UI.

It's defiantly a good UI though perhaps they should streamline it more toward desktop (non-touch screens) and have another version streamlined toward touch screens.

U've got to give MS credit, the whole start screen concept has pretty much run its course. How many more bells and whistles can they really add to their old design as it's been 'start screen with menu' since pre 95.

Tablets on the rise, touch interface on the increase and desktops in the decline. MS has had to evolve so good for them. Win 8 is a shift, but not enough to make long term windows users change and most power users will like having the option of the old UI as they will hate metro, just like Ubuntu kept gnome because old school users hated unity.

answered Sep 15 '11 at 17:29

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I was loving it until right after I clicked on the question I got a metro style blue screen. And now the start screen won't finish loading. I was trying to install avast! for a little security and then bam. Hopefully a force shutdown and restart will fix. I guess I can't blame this on windows 8.

answered Sep 15 '11 at 18:12

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Oh and I forget to mention, I've got no sound. Nothing I've done so far fixes that. Any tips would be great!

(Sep 15 '11 at 18:15) ryebread761 ryebread761's gravatar image

I don't trust Avast,. just saying.

(Sep 16 '11 at 02:00) xedric14 xedric14's gravatar image

I HATE THAT I NEED TO USE A SCROLL BAR FOR THE METRO

i'm a keyboard mouse user and I prefer using the keyboard esp. WSAD key to navigate than dragging a scroll bar. - I HATE THAT. and if I'd be using a mouse to navigate, I want to just drag the whole metro panels and move them (just like what you do in adobe PDF reader.) it's convenient that way. I really really hate scroll bars. they're soo windows 95!!!

answered Sep 16 '11 at 01:46

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