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I am building a custom pc and have already bought the case. I'm not convinced that it is "water cooling ready". I have been thinking about water cooling it but was wondering if I need a certain type of case to do it. Is it too late for me?

asked Oct 02 '11 at 09:22

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Don't water cool unless you have a 100% functional need for it. Water cooling is very expensive and is also high maintenance.

Also all in one kits do not cool well compared to an actual custom water cooling system.

For example if you look at the all in ones from Corsair, you will see that they only perform a little bit better than a quality air cooled heatsink (the level of improvement is not enough to warrant the additional cost.

The only time a full on water cooling system warrants the cost is the fact they they may allow you to push an extra 0.2V into your core i7 CPU when overclocking without it going over 100C

with the all in one kits, you generally cant get to a point where you can push an extra .1 to .2 V into the CPU and have it not overheat. (by extra voltage, I mean when you hit the average max overclock voltage of a standard air cooled heatsink)

Also wanted to add, In the past when I have done custom liquid cooling builds for people, it was hard to talk them out of it (their main focus may have been more of the look than the performance)

Generally for the cost of a liquid cooling system you can generally put that money towards a significantly faster CPU or videocard or in these days, a 120GB+ SSD

Also a single radiator that gets attached to a 120mm or 140mm fan is not enough to allow for more voltage over air cooling only. For something like a core i7 or a Phenom II x4 or x6, you need 2 large radiators (generally a 2 120-140mm fan radiator or a 3 120-140mm fan radiator, and trust me they are expensive)

Also avoid all in ones as even with a large radiator they often lack a decent sized reservoir, which not only make it easier to expand the system and prevent bubbles, they also increase the amount of water that needs to be heated, which helps lower temperatures.

All in all, a decent liquid cooling system if you are interested in boosting your max overclock over what you can get with air cooling, then be prepared to spend around $300-$400 on a cooling system

generally those who get liquid cooling for functional reasons such as overclocking and not for the looks will only get it when they already have a top of the line system where they have more money but nothing faster to spend it on so they focus on getting the highest possible sustainable overclocks.

If you are not that type, then put the money into a faster CPU, videocard, or storage

answered Oct 02 '11 at 12:50

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edited Oct 02 '11 at 13:06

The Corsair H100 is really good though. It keeps my CPU at 60 degrees at full load where my Noctua NH-D14 got an average of 78 degrees. But of course it depends on the rest of the case and cooling as well. With the H100 I can have 4 fans in push/pull config, all spinning at 6000 rpm. Custom watercooling is better but it's a bit complex to work with. And it can leak =/

(Oct 02 '11 at 13:09) Yarvaxea Yarvaxea's gravatar image

I might have a look at some of the all in one systems then. This is my first PC from scratch. I've customized before but never completely from scratch. Was just wondering if it was worth it. And i thought the case was a decent size. Well at least for my first built PC.

(Oct 02 '11 at 13:17) Zorbeen98 Zorbeen98's gravatar image

As long as you have descent space in the case then yes you are okay.

If you have a mid tower. I would not bother unless you have low spec.

Water cooling works the best in big towers.

answered Oct 02 '11 at 09:54

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this is my case - http://www.maplin.co.uk/super-cool-turbine-gamer-case-97184 . Do you think its worth it?

(Oct 02 '11 at 10:02) Zorbeen98 Zorbeen98's gravatar image

First of all you paid wayyyy to much for a case of that standard. And I would not bother with that case it is a bit too small to bother.

(Oct 02 '11 at 10:04) Jackster1337 Jackster1337's gravatar image

You can try a all in one water cooling unit but full on loop would be a waste.

(Oct 02 '11 at 10:04) Jackster1337 Jackster1337's gravatar image

If you were going for water cooling I wouldn't have bought a case with fans at all. I have had computers with front and side fans and once you add the cpu fan, the graphics card with its own fan, the back fan and the power supply fan the damn thing sounds like an airplane. It's nearly impossible to do anything that involves the microphone.

So I'd get a completely different case with no built-in front or side fans.

(Oct 02 '11 at 11:14) Duodave Duodave's gravatar image

really? I have a HAF X case with 6x120mm radiator fans, 1x360mm in the top, 2x120mm in the front, 160mm in the back and 160mm on the sidewindow, I don't hear a thing from it unless I max everything out which is rarely necessary.

(Oct 02 '11 at 11:57) Yarvaxea Yarvaxea's gravatar image

I also have the HAF X.

Sounds like you have super hearing or OTT fans.

(Oct 02 '11 at 11:58) Jackster1337 Jackster1337's gravatar image

eh? the radiator fans are configured in push & pull and each can go to about 6000 RPM, if I turn them on max yeah I can hear that lol! That sounds like an airbus :O But still I don't hear it when I have headphones on, and the mic doesn't pick it up either.

(Oct 02 '11 at 12:08) Yarvaxea Yarvaxea's gravatar image

That was at Dave. You posted while I was writing. Even on full the stock fans can't be heard.

(Oct 02 '11 at 12:09) Jackster1337 Jackster1337's gravatar image

Well, in retrospect I suppose I could have identified the noisiest fans and replaced them with silent fans.

(Oct 02 '11 at 12:30) Duodave Duodave's gravatar image
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You can certainly use one of those all-in-one kits like the H60,H70 etc from Corsair. But I wouldn't recommend a customized system simply because that case is way too small.

answered Oct 02 '11 at 11:09

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