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Hi Chris, i was hopping you could point in the right direction for setting up a good cheap server for both data storage/sharing and gaming in minecraft for example. My first thought was a Apple mini because of the price, performance and quality but i've been told they make bad servers for gaming at least. So i'm hopping you can help me out, i'd be prepared to spend up to a thousand pounds if that'll get something that has good storage, plenty of memory and precessing speed and will last me a long time but should i go for a windows based server or OSx Lion i.e. Apple?

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(Oct 07 '11 at 19:47) kevin ♦♦ kevin's gravatar image

oh ok, still i'd really appreciate some help from the community :)

(Oct 07 '11 at 19:49) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Well Why not go to a local place near by that has used computers. I know in the province where I live here. There are two companies that I go to that have used desktops, laptops and servers which are fairly good and fairly Cheap. Just need to install an operating system like Ubuntu or windows servers for example. And go from there in doing something like what your mentioning there. Most medium to large companies will tend to do a turn around of their computers. And instead of throwing them away into the garbage. They tend to go to places that will recycle them or refurbish them to the general public or sell them to small mom and pop stores. Check where you live to see if they have such a place close by to where you live. And if it is open to the public. so you can go in and get what you need.

answered Oct 07 '11 at 22:04

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there's a place in my town that is a recycling point for computers, they 'refurbish' them but they are pretty hit and miss, you can easily buy something from them and it stops working pretty quickly. And because they list it as refurbished they don't really offer warranty not that you'd really want them tinkering around in it :p I had them build me a computer a few years ago and had nothing but trouble with it and had terrible customer service, i guy a know looked it over for me and worked fine from then on, so that options out lol There's two Apple stores a few friends of mine live one being privately owned selling refurbished Apple products which you can try before you buy. It was originally where i got the idea for the mac mini as a hub/server until i was told it's bad for servers. I'd to start off cheap but would be prepared to go up to a thousand if it means getting a good server that lasts a long time. Going through my local store that way will only end badly :p So all considered would you recommend me buying a shell, something with the basics such as case, motherboard, power supply, disc drives etc then beef up the processor, memory, hard drive etc? Would mixing SSD and normal hard drives be a good thing, say keeping the OS and software on a SSD and stored data files on the hard drive, would that mean the important systems would run faster? Because the Apple store may have refurbished servers which leads me onto the second point, better to build a Windows server or Apple? I haven't used Ubuntu since it was still labelled purely as Linux, so would be pretty new to me and my friends who would be using it as well.

(Oct 07 '11 at 22:26) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

You can go the second route by building your own yes. But for practical purposes like for servers. And this is just a preference of mine over here. SSD should not be used for servers. Regular IDE or Stat drive should be more than enough. Depending on the size of the hard drive you need to Sata are up to 2 terabytes right now. I have a prices list in canadian funds over here and they are fairly cheap to build with that for your data and what ever else you need. Just looking here to get some idea's you know.Is there going to be a lot of data your going to be backing up as well as having it as well as for playing like your own Massive worlds like world of warcraft kin of thing?

answered Oct 08 '11 at 00:58

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Aye SATA drives would be cheaper and larger, was just thinking one SDD purely for the OS and some software, with back up files, music, videos and any storage needed for games etc being put onto hard drives. I'm looking for it to be a multi-purpose, i'm buying a new 3D tv soon and so thought i could use my 32inch LCD as a monitor for the server. It'll a badass setup in our living room, the 3D being used to watch tv, watching 3D blu rays, playing console games etc. The 32inch next to it with the server hooked into it will be for guests to internet browse, play music & films through it. It'll then store any video's i'll make and as holding anything i need for hosting a building a Minecraft server. This should mean getting more out the machine, being able to use it as a multi-media centre as well as storage as support for video editing and server hosting. I'll be sharing it with my flat mate and any friends needing to store data, so i expect between the two of us i'll need a terabyte SATA but would like an SDD alongside it purely for the OS if that works well. How much of my budget should i set aside for memory & processing speed to make sure it run's smooth? Can you recommend a good site for buying parts that ships to the UK?

(Oct 08 '11 at 01:23) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Then by all means use SSD for the OS. I was thinking over all that you wanted to use SSD for everything. You know how it goes when your chatting and go off the deep end on things. SSD if you are just using the OS. And the Sata as a secondary drive in it just make sure when you have it set up that when you get both drives formatted. I think like with windows 2003 server it'll format the drive you want as the C drive first. Then once everything is set up and the drivers are installed in. The Sata drive you can set up as the next driva available for it. And format that. Make sure when your backing up the data that you set it to the Sata drive and not the SSD drive. I know sometimes it will go to the main drive first for the server itself. Just to bring it up as a lil note there. It happened to me on several occations i was using a smaller hard drive as a c drive where the OS was located and totally forgot that there was a larger one in the machine itself for storage and backups.

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