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i think that it is up to a point, as long as you are not waiting too much for programs to load.

asked Jun 06 '10 at 11:25

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Definitely I always say the strength of any computer is determined by it's weakest link!

answered Jun 06 '10 at 11:27

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The weakest link is the hard drive. HDDs typically have a throughput of 15-50 MB/s, whereas RAM has a throughput of 1.5-3 GB/s.

(Jun 06 '10 at 11:28) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

The weakest link could also be the Internet, for example. It all depends on your application.

(Jun 07 '10 at 05:59) strager strager's gravatar image

Ahh, but that's outside the computer and is therefore not part of the computer.

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:36) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

... Also, RAM is one of the fastest parts of a computer, regardless of what kind you use.

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:40) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

It doesn't matter if it's part of the computer or not. It's still a bottleneck causing [perceived] slowdowns for the end user. However, I agree that Internet speed does not have much factor in the "strength of any computer".

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:49) strager strager's gravatar image

RAM speed is crucial, particularly if you're upgrading existing systems. Mainboards often have restrictions regarding the RAM. Installing RAM that is incompatible with your mainboard, or other installed RAM may cause instability (or worse!).

answered Jun 07 '10 at 05:47

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+1; I have hit nasty problems with RAM not wanting to keep up with my FSB, and vice versa. Luckily, I could adjust the memory bus multiplier, but this isn't always the case.

(Jun 07 '10 at 06:11) strager strager's gravatar image

Up yours, too. I had problems with an eBay seller sending me RAM that was rated too high (hah, what an idiot). I didn't notice until it started making my computer crash. Likely a similar problem to yours. I thought of the way electricity likes to work, and how RAM may misbehave if it were in a circuit arranged in series. Switched the RAM chips and it worked fine...

(Jun 07 '10 at 06:56) Seb Seb's gravatar image

There's also problems with voltage. Maybe the DIMM's can't handle the voltage your motherboard is giving it (i.e. the DIMM is breaking the spec (like most do ...)), so you have to manually adjust the voltage. Or maybe your DIMM is stressing your motherboard too much with its high voltage demands and you need to underclock the RAM to keep your motherboard happy. The easiest option is to just swap out the DIMM's for a different set, as you have mentioned, @Seb.

(Jun 07 '10 at 07:30) strager strager's gravatar image

Amount: Very. A general rule is to have more RAM than everything you run simultaneously. That is, if your OS and running apps total 800MB, you should get at least 1GB.

Speed: Not so much. DDR2 is cheap and plentiful. DDR3 is not worth it.

answered Jun 06 '10 at 11:27

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Well, DDR2 isn't cheap anymore, due to the rise of DDR3 thus reduced demand.

(Jun 07 '10 at 06:10) strager strager's gravatar image

4 GB for $109 is pretty dang cheap.

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:31) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

I used to be able to purchase 4GB of 800MHz DDR2 for 40$. This was about two years ago. Now I want a DDR2 upgrade (to 8GB), but it's now way out of my budget. Either I have to wait until DDR2 dies down (in which case my parts are probably ancient anyway), or I upgrade my mobo, proc (I'm running Intel), and RAM for DDR3.

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:35) strager strager's gravatar image
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Indeed, DDR3 is fast becoming the alternative for new computers. As a result, manufacturers are starting to focus on what is new. As manufacturers stop producing DDR2, and demand for DDR2 rises, the price rises. I've observed and rely on this, as I bought heaps of DDR2 when it was at it's cheapest as an investment.

(Jun 07 '10 at 09:03) Seb Seb's gravatar image

not having ram is like not having muscles and @tsilb, I for one believe that DDR3 is worth it

answered Jun 06 '10 at 11:30

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Touché. Agreed ddr3 ftw

(Jun 07 '10 at 05:51) Headwards Headwards's gravatar image

Do you have benchmarks showing DDR3 is better for loading typical programs (Word, browsers, Photoshop) than DDR2? "Belief" doesn't cut it for me; I need evidence or blind trust. =]

(Jun 07 '10 at 06:00) strager strager's gravatar image

Google it ...........

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:42) Headwards Headwards's gravatar image

Yes it is. Especially for things like video editing and multi tasking.

answered Jun 07 '10 at 08:43

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Multitasking is more about amout of memory than the speed of it; speed is more for doing one thing very quickly.

(Jun 07 '10 at 08:45) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image
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