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kinda a quick question, i'm looking at buying a Razer Blackwidow keyboard for my new Mac as they do a version with all the Mac keys which is great especially as i can have a better keyboard for gaming without having to have the Windows layout. But i'm now leaning in the direction of running boot camp which i'll use solely for games and recording, then moving the video over to my external before editing it on the Lion partition. Here's my quick question, could i just buy the regular Windows version of the keyboard to use when gaming on that partition and even though it's plugged into a Mac will all the keys will work as they should on a PC running Windows? The key's just won't have the same functionality if i were to use it on Lion yeah? If so then i'll just buy the regular version as i can have that for Windows when gaming and use the laptop keyboard when i'm on Lion.

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asked Jun 17 '12 at 12:37

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and i best ask, Mountain Lion will have updated boot camp drivers so if i set up boot camp now and then update to Mountain Lion how will that effect the boot camp set up?

(Jun 17 '12 at 13:10) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Yes, if you plug in a Windows keyboard on Boot Camp, it should work normally. Also, if you want to use a Windows keyboard on OS X, you can set it up to be mapped for a Windows keyboard. As a person who uses Boot Camp everyday, this is essential for me when I need to switch from my video/music production to my school/work mode.

Also, I'm assuming they will update the Boot Camp drivers for Windows as Microsoft will come out with Windows 8 in a few months.

answered Jun 17 '12 at 13:55

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great, the keyboard i'm after is easy enough to get hold of with the Windows keys rather than the Mac set up so i can get it at a better price. Just one more thing, if i record my gameplay using fraps while on boot camp, can i move that video file to my external and then move it over to Lion so i can edit it using iMovie? Would i have to record it in a particular format? if so does fraps support such a format?

(Jun 17 '12 at 14:00) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Yes you can, just be sure the external is formatted as FAT32. You know that FRAPS records things at a very, very high capacity. You might want to convert it to .mp4. I recommend http://goo.gl/2o7Sg, DVDVideoSoft's MP4 converter. It'll convert it to a smaller file size because FRAPS records it at a very high file size. I made a video that was 8 minutes long and it was at 16GB, when I converted it it was 550MB. FRAPS records at .avi codec, but iMovie seems to love Quicktime's H.264 or .mp4 video.

(Jun 17 '12 at 14:12) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

at what frame rate were you recording? that's allot of space to have to one side, can you recommend an alternative program to use for recording that won't create such large video files but that i can still move over to my external and then Lion?

(Jun 17 '12 at 14:22) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

At the lowest 30 frames per second. To record games, FRAPS can't be beat, but maybe Camtasia Studio might work. I like FRAPS better since it doesn't take away from the gaming.

(Jun 17 '12 at 14:34) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

very big file though for such a short video, i can see myself running into problems with that set up which is one reason i wanted to look at getting a thunderbolt external. That way i would have allot of extra storage and the transfer rates would be such that i could record straight to it without lag, i think? would that be a good set up ya think?

only thing being the price, if i could do this with a USB 3.0 drive such as this http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10517 then it would be a much more affordable option

(Jun 17 '12 at 14:54) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

I think that's a good idea.

(Jun 17 '12 at 14:55) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image
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@Mutley2209, I took the liberty of taking these two screencaps.

One is of me playing GTA San Andreas, and the other one is the result of the size of the file after it was rendered via FRAPS (30 Frames per second).

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answered Jun 17 '12 at 19:01

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edited Jun 17 '12 at 19:01

Take note of how long it was 4 minutes and 30 seconds, and the result of the size.

My screen size isn't 1280 x 1024, I made the game's resolution that since it doesn't support my TV's resolution of 1360 x 768.

(Jun 17 '12 at 19:03) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

that's pretty crazy, an hours worth of footage would take up most of my free space! Good thing i've gone for the external USB 3.0 drive, got 2tb on there so plenty of room for it all, i don't suppose there's anyway to keep an eye on how large the video is while you're recording as i know you can check fps? Just got to convert it to Mp4 before editing it on iMoive yeah? What exactly would formatting my external into FAT32 do?

(Jun 17 '12 at 19:13) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

No, there's no way I know of of checking the size while you're recording. Yes, you convert it to MP4 before editing on iMovie, since iMovie likes MP4 better than .avi. Formatting your external to FAT32 will make it readable to your Mac since NTFS can't be read by Mac OS X.

(Jun 17 '12 at 19:24) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

right so FAT32 can be read by both? Any downside to doing that though?

(Jun 17 '12 at 19:30) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Yes, it can be read by both Windows and Mac OS X. There's no downside I know of because you want it to be read in both places.

(Jun 17 '12 at 19:33) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

Right right, if you don't want to go that way, you can buy MacDrive and format your drive to a Mac OS drive. Since you have MacDrive, your Mac drive can be read by Windows.

http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:00) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image
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i just read that the file sizes are limited to 4gb in FAT32? that would mean i can't record to the external via fraps as the file sizes are going to be allot larger

answered Jun 17 '12 at 19:36

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edited Jun 17 '12 at 20:00

is there a way to convert the file into an mp4 fat32 file so Lion can read it rather than partitioning the drive into FAT32 which evidently will limit each file to just 4gb?

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:10) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Just get MacDrive, it'll work for you.

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:16) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

so Mac drive will allow me to transfer files from Windows to Mac without compatibility issues and vice versa and can be accessed on both systems?

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:32) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Yeah, MacDrive mounts your Mac hard drive or Mac formatted anything so Windows can read it. No problems or anything.

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:35) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

does it work the other way around though since i'll be recording and creating the file on windows and then editing on Lion

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:37) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Yeah, it works both ways. Once you copied the file, you can read it in Lion.

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:42) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

right great, that settles that. so what i'll do is i'll try partition my external one for Windows one for Lion and record onto the Windows side, convert to mp4, then boot up Lion and use Macdrive to copy the file over to the Lion side ready for edit, all good?

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:46) mutley2209 mutley2209's gravatar image

Yup. Sounds good to me.

(Jun 17 '12 at 20:59) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image
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