So I'm on the Microsoft website looking for a Windows 8 Release Preview download right, and I look down and it says "Still have Windows XP?" To me that kind of seems rude in my opinion. Like the way it's written, Still have it? Making it seem that you're behind 2-3 generations is bad. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/downloads is the link in question. It maybe just me or is Microsoft getting a bit more aggressive with people on XP to move to Vista-7-8, or not even Vista, 7 or 8. Since XP and Vista are apparently getting just the basics to survive. I still like XP and Vista no matter what, those were the editions of Microsoft we geeks know like the back of our hands. What do you guys think?
asked Jul 15 '12 at 15:53
DJ Scooby Doo
people who talk about XP being old generally only have that as their reason and logically it is the equivalent of telling someone too stop using the wheel because it is old and possibly invented be cavemen. If your only reason for upgrading is because the OS is old, then you don't have a good reason.
PS (the road on the side of your house is old, stop using it)
If a OS meets all of your needs, then why upgrade it? Windows 7 is not any more secure in terms of the incidents of exploitation (in fact many trustworthy security researchers such as Steve Gibson argue based on the history of exploits that windows 7 is less secure because most security holes found effect both windows 7 and windows XP (showing that a similar code base was used for both OS), furthermore, many new exploits that only effect a single OS, generally only effect windows 7 as it will be an exploit for a new feature that was added and is not present in windows XP to be exploited.
On top of all that, not everyone needs the latest direct x, and even on current gen hardware, windows XP is still faster on the same hardware than windows 7 is, especially if you are running a HDD as all of the resources on windows XP are less IO intensive (smaller OS designed at a time when hard drive IO performance sucked so you could not have explorer or other elements in the OS calling a huge library)
On my PC I dual boot windows XP and windows 7. I have both OS optimized for performance and windows 7 for me boots faster than it did on a fresh install)
On my 7200RPM WD black 1TB drive, windows XP boots in about 13-14 seconds (to get to a 100% usable state when all loading stops (the hard drive light stops blinking and no additional loading is needed)
Windows 7 takes almost twice as long to get to that same state.
I use a Phenom II X6 CPU overclocked to 4.1GHz
8GB RAM though 32 bit windows XP only sees 3328MB of RAM and the rest is allocated to a RAM disk for use with photoshop and a few other professional applications that allow multiple cache levels.
I also have a 120GB sandisk SSD where I install most of my applications to (as well as about 60GB of steam games)
At startup, windows XP with all non microsoft startup items are disabled, takes about 40MB of RAM while the same setup will take close to 1GB of RAM on windows 7
(my current windows XP setup takes about 70-80MB of RAM at startup since I have avast antivirus and MSI afterburner in my system startup)
For both windows Xp and windows 7, all applications are installed to the same SSD for the most part (all 32 bit apps are installed to the same folder (overwriting whats already there so for example, my firefox program files entry takes only 36.3MB of storage for both windows 7 and Xp since they are being run from the same exact folder (most applications can be shared this way especially since most of the other data more tailored to the OS are put in the app data folders and registry.
This can be done for games and even applications such as adobe audition so both OS get the benefit of the SSD
The only time when extra space is taken is when I have to install a 64 bit specific application which requires it's own dedicated folder since my XP install is 32 bit.
Overall, I regularly use both windows XP and windows 7 and in switching between then, the snappiness of the and general performance of the OS is clearly in windows XP's favor. Overall, this noticeable difference is enough to keep me using windows XP as my primary OS and windows 7 for direct x 10 and 11 games and the latest adobe aftereffects, and maya 3D (the 64 bit mental ray render engine renders faster than the 32 bit engine)
I have also tested dualboots of windows XP and windows 7 on the current gen ivy bridge systems and the difference between the 2 is still noticeable.
PS you can not tell the difference in CPU performance (windows XP benchmarks higher in some test of CPU performance and windows 7 benchmarks higher in others, but the margin is so small that there is no way you can actually notice any difference. The main area where you notice a difference is when you do anything within the OS using the OS'es own resources, eg opening a folder, or menu, or setting or other things, things that are instant if close enough to it for it to feel instant, take a considerably longer amount of time in windows 7 as more data has to be read from the hard drive to display the same content (mainly because windows 7 likes adding special effects and other graphical elements to folders and other elements that don't need them for any functional reason.
Overall, in terms of performance you can consider windows 7 to be less snappy and it is entirely due to it not being as IO friendly as windows XP ( an OS designed for a time when a hard drive that could read and write at 30MB/s was seen as really good)
There's kids younger than XP that can build an OS. It's really outdated.
answered Jul 15 '12 at 21:51
Because XP is a behind system. People need to move on. Windows 7 is an excellent system - and in many cases, actually runs as smooth as or even better than XP. Its a 10 year old system. Leave it. 7 is fine. Windows 8 is a different matter though - That will be a huge problem for many people.
answered Jul 15 '12 at 16:40
Microsoft NEEDS you to think having XP in 2012 is bad. If they didnt get people to think you should upgrade, no one would feel the need to and therefore, they wouldn't make 1/8th of the money they do today. Its all marketing. Microsoft also works with some software companies to get them to stop compatiblilty with their older OS's so that when. their printer or something like that stops working, they will then be forced to find a third-party solution, or upgrade to a newer version of windows, such as windows 7 or 8. The truth is, Windows XP is still a viable option as an operating system, however as previously stated, many software companies have stopped support for legacy operating systems, you may have to find third party solutions for your new hardware, or just skip all that and use Windows 7. XD
answered Jul 15 '12 at 20:57
erm it is bad to have XP in 2012 it was not great having it back when it first came out , I'm not one who thinks it great to have the latest greatest of everything at all, how ever when it comes to computers and program technologuy if you bought a new computer in the last 4 year 5 years and still run win XP you cant even use 30% of what the computer is capable of ..
or wasting 70% of the $$ invested on new hardware and software not to mention letting that 70% of processing tech go to the way side this is just part of it ..
Microsoft needs to prepare people for the reality that is coming in the next few years its going to become harder and harder to get PC that even runs windows or to by a copy to install on outsider brands :)
once the surface comes out its not gonna be noticed right off because there is still so much unsold back stock but the PC is a dead issue lap top as well all computers for person use are going to be hand held cloud ran devices with mini Bluetooth keyboards and touch screens they are going to be built into things like your tv set , were you can access your programs file music video even cable and phone ..
the line is already blurring but is gonna blur even more between your phone computer and TV game unit ..
there are things out there in the pipeline much of it in hopes of arriving over the next 5 years Microsoft use to be a leader in this technology over the last 11 years it had become an ancor its time for them to move ahead and prepare all to move with them or become the past ..
answered Jul 15 '12 at 16:16
if mircosoft can't get everyone still useing windows and believe me is 60% less then in the past they I dont think as far as a pay for profit os they will be around in personal software for another release..
I say personal because I think it will take a bit more time to kill of the business side though that is losing alot faster and faster too, they are supporting win 7 business till 2020 but after that who knows where it goes ..
Because there is the expecation for support.
The problem with XP is that it was a product they did right.
It provided what many users did, and still need from a PC OS. Therefore there is little incentive for many who are using a product which meets their needs to spend money on a software and potentially hardware upgrade.
answered Jul 15 '12 at 17:06
I feel Microsoft is starting to become like apple, not only in their childish new ui in windows 8 but Windows was, from ym perspective always, more or less supported between versions, keeping enough old and introducing the new, however in late that have been changing everything and forcing people to even upgrade from 7 as soon as 8 comes out, have you tried finding a gadget on their website, they jno longer support gadgets... I, who am a Microsoft fanboy, think that Microsoft is starting to become that big brother figure, almost as bad as apple is, in dictating what people should think and do
answered Jul 15 '12 at 17:16
they are changing and something is up they are all but offering to give win 8 away ..
its not just Microsoft there is a big push on by all the big players for these changes in computing to happen , its more then just where the $$ are the internet is great but it need some self correction in areas that have been neglected that all the encryption and cloud computing can go a long way in fixing ...
have ya all heard sopa is back on the table this week
I'm still using windows xp on one of my PCs and I believe it's the best windows ever, But I must go with the flow when they stop supporting XP... (-_-)
answered Jul 15 '12 at 17:42