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Am looking in to water cooling but having never done it before not too sure how safe it is.

We all know water and electricity doesn't mix so what 'madman' thought it would be a good idea to cool their pc with water!? XD

Anyway yeah, how safe is it and what would happen if it leaked?

asked Aug 09 '12 at 13:12

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Actually in most water cooling setups, its not water, Its a mineral oil that is non conductive. You could pour it all over the inside of your computer and it wouldn't hurt it at all, it would be messy though. Either way there is a very small chance it would catch on fire.

answered Aug 09 '12 at 14:26

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In most water cooling setups it is water based coolant. Mineral oil is mainly used for submersion.

(Aug 10 '12 at 07:42) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

Well not in any that are high quality enough that you would want to use. Trust me most of the ones you buy online are filled with a type of mineral oil or non conductive liquid, not water. But yes mineral oil is also used for the submersion method, I personally am not a fan of that technique tho.

(Aug 10 '12 at 15:11) snack pack88 snack%20pack88's gravatar image

They sell premixed or the corrosion preventing additive. Mineral oil may be lighter but it's much more viscus. It has a serious flow problem. It will wreck your pump.

(Aug 10 '12 at 16:28) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

A house fire wouldn't be very likely. Any of the connections, lines, manifolds, the rad or even the sump could drip, squirt or spray. You can test it without your PC running to reduce risks and check it regularly.

answered Aug 09 '12 at 13:58

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if it leaked it would only ruin your computer hardware that would be it really it might trip a fuse or something but thats all really (setup water cooling on a old pc before doing it on your main computer then leave the computer powered on for a few hours maybe a day just so it can settle)

answered Aug 09 '12 at 13:59

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warning !!!!!

Don't attempt to dump mineral oil in your electronics just a friendly warning they will still short out got an old keyboard your not partial to give it a try :) for anyone who don't know or is not old enough for years on end they used Oils in electric power transformers in fact many of these types of transformer are out there in use today any how these transformer are also a huge source of the PCB pollution in our environment today , they used the oil for cooling how ever when the transformer leaked poof shorted out the transformers ..

burnt oil from these transformers which it use to be legal just to dump full of this oil after it had heated and cooled for year and burnt as the transformer rotted and started to leak the oils got in to the ground and the water table lakes rivers and such ..

even WD40 will cause electronics to short out it will displace water and is designed to evaporate quickly how rever if sparyed on a powered item it will short it out ..

answered Aug 10 '12 at 16:46

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edited Aug 10 '12 at 16:49

Google aquarium PC. There's thousands of them totally submerged in mineral oil PSU and all.

(Aug 10 '12 at 16:56) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

take my word for it :) or go ahead submerge your lap top ina pool of oil and see there are some things you can get away with and some you cant ..

I assure you they are not submersing CPU, hard drives, power supply's some electronic parts are also made with paper wax ans card board which would be messed up fairly quickly buy oil once it penetrates ..

all it would take is a speck of dust to foul the CPU and kill it dead unless this is the purest most pristine continually filtered oil in the world it would cause issues or the CPU is specially sealed liquid title same goes for the HD ..

there is something about these computers either you are not telling or they are not :) how many million or hundereds of millions are they spending to make it possible :)

(Aug 10 '12 at 17:12) jadtechnic jadtechnic's gravatar image

mineral oil which is thinner then crude oil hasa flash point of 185 degres oils tend to hold heat not release it all that easy so it would have to be chilled continually or risk a big time fire of explosion depending how much oil we are talking about and how confined

MSDS on the stuff say it has a flash point of 185 degrees it warns to store inaw cool dry place sealed in its orginal container and warns about over heating fire and explosion there are also health risk and factors even in medical grade mineral oil ..

is is an oxidizer which mean it is a corrosive many types of metal and ELECTRONICS ..

decomposion of it by produsts are Carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide. this stuff in large quanitys can kill you if not stored right ..

(Aug 10 '12 at 17:26) jadtechnic jadtechnic's gravatar image

I was a little taken by it the first time I saw it too. They had everything that they didn't need to access to under oil. The monitor, keyboard, mouse, DVD drive, front jacks and card readers would need to be outside. The motherboard, processor (with the heat sync and fan), Power supply (with it's internal fan), RAM, graphics card, sound card and the hard drive were all submerged in pure mineral oil and there was nothing special about any of the components.

(Aug 10 '12 at 18:49) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

these machine were protected and not ran long because fact is tif the oil didnt short them the heat would cook it also the drives did run because dont matter if its was oil or water the speed would be disrupted by the fluid the thicker it is the hard to turn :)

bottom line on this oil is not a coolent at all it hold heat in if you had a barrel of mineral oil and stuck out side in the freezing cold out side of dye from carbon you could keep from freezing to death it would hold your body heat in and allow it to accumulate in the oil you would be as snug as a bug in a rug so to speak ..

(Aug 10 '12 at 19:20) jadtechnic jadtechnic's gravatar image

facts about mineral oil not only will it conduct electric VOltage, it is not effeceint for cooling ..

Facts about mineral oil and electronics it will destory electronic and if you decided to cool with it you would need to figure out hows to proof the computer hard drive power supply CPU and other parts from the oil also you will need to find away to cool the oil as it is poor at conducting the heat away .. mineral oil is a corosive , and the vicosity of the oil would mess up laser reader such as DVD and cd drives recorders..

this from some one with over 50 year XP in the eletronic feild still very much active today ..

oil would liturally hold heat in the computer it is not only a conductor but has insolateing properties ..

answered Aug 10 '12 at 18:27

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edited Aug 10 '12 at 18:28

your house wouldnt burn down even in the most extreme circumstances.

if you are worried about the system leaking, measure up all the tubes and connect it all together outside the case, fill the system and let it run for a few days, if there are any leaks you can fix them.

if there was a leak of the system, the coolant is usually none conductive so will not short out the components it comes into contact with.

if you used a conductive coolant and it leaked and it shorted out the components it came into contact with, either the PSU would short out and fail, the fuse in the PSU would fail and break the connection or your circuit breaker in your house would trip.

the PSU would also be above the tubes, so the only time there would be a fire hazard (if there was one) is when you turn it on creating a flow of electricity, if there was a short you could simply pull the plug on it to prevent a fire.

answered Aug 10 '12 at 21:28

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edited Aug 10 '12 at 21:29

The coolant is water with an additive to prevent corrosion. The PSU on gaming rigs are on the bottom to make room for the rads on top.

(Aug 10 '12 at 22:10) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image
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