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Hello. I want to make my own animated films, but I don't have the technology to do it. My question is, Mac or Pc? macbook or macbook pro?

asked Sep 09 '12 at 14:55

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edit this question do not make such a similar question

(Sep 09 '12 at 22:07) pjob797 pjob797's gravatar image

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for video and audio production, all of the major applications are available for both OS, so just go with what gives you the fastest CPU, Memory, GPU, HDD, ect for the money (almost all the time, building your own system will give you significantly better speed for the money).

answered Sep 09 '12 at 18:25

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Thanks for your thoughts.

(Sep 09 '12 at 18:40) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image
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Not ALL of the major applications. Final Cut, Motion, and Compressor are Mac only.

(Sep 09 '12 at 20:01) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image

My old pc has a intel hd graphics card, but is unable to replace.

(Sep 09 '12 at 20:05) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

You could still use the Adobe suite for PC alternatives.

(Sep 09 '12 at 20:43) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

Not with my olddie

(Sep 09 '12 at 20:44) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

@DJ Scooby Doo, of course, I was just making that clear about Apple's pro apps.

(Sep 09 '12 at 20:49) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image

I thought Final Cut Pro was Mac and Windows? I guess I am wrong

(Sep 09 '12 at 21:19) Studio66Designs Studio66Designs's gravatar image

Nope. And you know how Microsoft and Apple are, cross-platform is out of their mindset and all they care about is there os's software.

(Sep 09 '12 at 21:20) Cameron Cameron's gravatar image

What about Sony Vegas? Sony Vegas is a good alternative to FCP.

(Sep 09 '12 at 21:39) DJ Scooby Doo DJ%20Scooby%20Doo's gravatar image

I don't think Vegas stacks up to FCPX in terms of features and UI, but it is an alternative.

(Sep 09 '12 at 23:55) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image

Many people have left final cut for adobe aftereffects and their other products because they removed features in their latest versions and also removed many customizations, and broke compatibility with older projects.

also when doing video work professionally, the most annoying factor is waiting so you can never have enough CPU power, RAM, and depending on the application, GPU power.

To get adobe afterefects and adobe premier pro functioning very snappy for a system build I did for a local ad company, I had to put the OS on 1 240GB SSD and then dedicate a 512GB SSD for working storage (raw video files), and create a 20GB RAM disk for the cache (system had 32GB DDR3 1600 memory along with adding a quadro 4000 videocard, and a GTX 465 (to run davinci resolve)

If you are working with anything above 1080p video, or if you are even touching RED footage, then your most important factor easily becomes speed.

building your own system vs buying a prebuilt system is often the difference (cost) of being stuck with a crappy 1TB hard drive in raid, with a single mid range GPU, and throwing in nearly 1TB worth of solid state storage, along with a 1TB hard drive, and adding 2 videocards.

The price premium goes up as you go higher end, to a point where with a mac pro or equivalent prebuilt system, that you are paying as much as $1500 over the cost of a system you build yourself.

You also get better warranty service with a system you build yourself since since most of the components will have a warranty that last anywhere from 5 years to lifetime, and you only need to send in the bad component rather than the entire system if it is prebuilt, (most prebuilt systems will have special serials on the internal hardware so that you are stuck with only the manufacture warranty (usually 1-2 years at most)

Only go with prebuilt if it is a really good deal, eg you are spending less on the system as compared to if you are buying the parts yourself and building a system.

(Sep 10 '12 at 19:25) Razor512 Razor512's gravatar image

Yes, lots of professionals abandoned FCP. And lots of professionals didn't. By now it has just about all the tools pros need in an editor, and it easily has every tool a consumer or prosumer would need. Of course there are still reasons to use other programs like the Adobe Suite, but I'm just saying FCPX is a very viable option for almost everyone. And you can even use AE in tandem with FCPX, as many professionals do.

And keep in mind, we're talking about a kid going to college, not a full production company, using RED footage and what not. It's his personal computer, he should take into account his preferred OS as well.

(Sep 10 '12 at 20:03) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image
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Theoretically you can do either, however, technologically speaking of advise you to use a Mac since a lot of their software is optimized for the Mac OS and will provide an overall smoother feel in editing video.

answered Sep 09 '12 at 15:12

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Simple answer for this Question: Tried and Proven to be the best platform for Film making is Mac

answered Sep 09 '12 at 22:18

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But I need at least $750 for a Macbook.

(Sep 09 '12 at 22:24) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image
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I smell a fanboy

(Sep 10 '12 at 15:37) Cameron Cameron's gravatar image

My suggestion to you is to get a decently powered PC and load it up with Linux. Get a hold of KDenlive and get a hold of Blender and you are ready to rock.

answered Sep 10 '12 at 02:10

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So it's good for motion graphics?

(Sep 10 '12 at 11:26) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

I think you can get a good result there but I would suggest Cinelerra over KDenlive.

(Sep 10 '12 at 14:36) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

Cinelerra is good stuff too. I have just always used KDenlive. It is what I am used to. I get great results with it.

(Sep 10 '12 at 16:27) Drmgiver Drmgiver's gravatar image

KDenlive is nice but it's made for and works best in KDE. I do like it though. It's as easy to use as Movie Maker and does a lot more. It's almost comparable to Vegas.

(Sep 10 '12 at 18:19) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

I use it in MATE and it works perfectly.

(Sep 10 '12 at 19:40) Drmgiver Drmgiver's gravatar image

You could use Mac or PC. If you could enlighten me on what Macs and PCs you can get I could help you out.

answered Sep 09 '12 at 15:12

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I am probably looking for a Macbook 2.16Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 2GB 250GB.

(Sep 09 '12 at 15:30) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

This is the minimum Mac power for Video Editing http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro/select

As for PCs, you didn't give me one so..

(Sep 09 '12 at 15:33) Cameron Cameron's gravatar image

Pc is a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge Series Intel i5 2.67 Ghz 480M 4GB 320GB Windows 7 64bit professional.

Also the Mac is used/refurbished.

(Sep 09 '12 at 15:35) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

The Mac I listed will do a better job. If you are sticking to the one you said, go with the PC. It will do the job and save you money.

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:41) Cameron Cameron's gravatar image

Well, you just posted the MacBook Pro product page... I posted this comment earlier but he deleted his answer so I'll put it here:

I'd really encourage going for something more powerful than that MackBook Pro. I've got a 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo, and while it's held up well for the past 3 years, modern software is beginning to outgrow it. I can't even get realtime playback in Final Cut Pro X, even in proxy mode. And without a doubt you'll need more RAM than 2GB. But you can upgrade that yourself with any MBP but the new retina display model.

But anyways, I'd advise against that model. It's just not quite there in terms of processing power, and I'd assume it lacks a good graphics card. I'd recommend 1GB, or 512MB at the very least. If you can't do that then I agree, a PC might be a better option. Coming from someone who loves OS X, edits in FCPX and Premiere, and uses After Effects for VFX and motion graphics.

(Sep 09 '12 at 17:15) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image

I'm a bit of a Windows Fanboy, so I'd probably pick the PC. But it's really comes down to personal prefrence if you can afford something with a minimum 4GB RAM and a 2.6 Ghz i3 processor

(Sep 09 '12 at 20:47) Cameron Cameron's gravatar image

Agreed. If you've got the means for an adequately powerful machine on either platform, choose the OS you prefer.

I'm personally willing to compromise a little on specs to be able to use OS X, as long as I can run the programs I need to. But that's just me.

(Sep 09 '12 at 21:44) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image
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Either can do it very well. The old belief that macs were better for image manipulation or video editing comes way back in the old IBM PowerPC processors (Before Apple moved to Intel processors). Now, the PC/MAC hardware is essentially the same, to a certain level. I'll explain.

Most people today will buy a 500$ computer and think the system can do everything -- wrong. The 500$ computer will not be able to do graphics editing or video manipulations nearly as well as a good sub-1000$ system with a decent video adapter and a good processor.

So in a way -- it's true. Apple computers are better, but not because of the hardware itself, but because of the uniformity of it's hardware, and because of the maturity and popularity of it's video/image editing tools.

Okay, I'm done writing my book! :)

answered Sep 09 '12 at 16:22

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Mac is great, but problem is I need support to get a Mac.

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:31) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

What do you mean by 'I need support'? Monetary support? Or you just don't know how a Mac functions?

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:39) Farchord Farchord's gravatar image

No, I need some money to get it, I mean college ain't cheap.

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:42) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

Ah okay, I see. Well anyway, if you get an Ivy Bridge CPU in your computer (Look for Intel Core i3/i5/i7 with the CPU number beginning with a 3 (3570, 3260, etc), they are Ivy Bridges), that processor comes with an integrated video processor which I heard is a big step up from the last generation when it comes to transcoding video, performance-wise... I mean, still not as good as dedicated hardware, but with your limited financial means, it'd still be pretty acceptable! :)

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:47) Farchord Farchord's gravatar image

Thank you.

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:52) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

Now I gotta find out how to get the financing.

(Sep 09 '12 at 16:56) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image
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Somebody told me that iMovie sucks and that I should download Sony Vegas and usa a PC! He also told me that I wasted my money on a Mac and should of purchased a PC

answered Sep 09 '12 at 21:17

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Really? I'm not sure anymore. I guess I gotta do more research and I guess I need more opinions.

(Sep 09 '12 at 21:22) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

iMovie doesn't suck at all, it's great. But it's great for a certain demographic. It's not a pro tool. I'm not a Vegas fan, FCPX is much better IMO.

@MyFunkyDesigns It seems like whoever told you that was a bit uninformed, and very biased.

(Sep 10 '12 at 17:38) sfrancis928 sfrancis928's gravatar image

Somebody told me that losing 400 pounds took at most a week and it was like losing a pair of shoes.

Point is, believe in facts. Not opinions. Someone telling you that iMovie sucks is an opinion.

Ask him what iMovie lacks to his Windows counterpart, Windows Movie Maker, as it is what it is.

answered Sep 09 '12 at 21:27

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Well Windows Movie Maker doesn't work for me anyway. I guess the Mac is the answer, but how the hell am I gonna find the cash? That and what software?

(Sep 09 '12 at 21:41) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

What about Linux?

(Sep 09 '12 at 22:02) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

It was only an example....

Look, long story short. If you know iMovie then that's a +1 towards getting a Mac.

It's really up to you in the end.

(Sep 09 '12 at 22:02) Farchord Farchord's gravatar image

That's true. Thanks.

(Sep 09 '12 at 22:08) RealOrestSulyk RealOrestSulyk's gravatar image

I highly doubt you wanna go into linux. I will not pronounce myself and say there's no easy movie editing tool in Linux (There might be), but if you don't want something overly complicated and technical, stick to Windows or Mac.

Linux is for experienced users only.

(Sep 09 '12 at 22:11) Farchord Farchord's gravatar image
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Linux is for experienced users only? Stop the FUD. Look up Linux Mint or Ubuntu.

(Sep 10 '12 at 02:06) Drmgiver Drmgiver's gravatar image
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dude u can do all the stuff on both platforms, i would say go for the specs not the platform, also when u are in professional world go with the platform with which u are familiar with so that you dont have to learn all the tricks of the OS and as a professional you might wanna be a power user.

Frankly for me windows 7 serves all my needs, all the software is there, dont know about you.

answered Sep 10 '12 at 14:06

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It seems that in the entertainment industry there's a lot of usage of both. One of the cold hard facts is that until mac makes a render cluster PC is going to be the muscle. No one wants to cluster a bunch of expensive desktops. PC allows you to build in an affordable manor and if it's done properly it will be stable and faster. You can't judge PC by the common affordable box model.

All of the industry standard software is cross platform. Software will only be a consideration if you include Linux.

answered Sep 10 '12 at 14:33

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edited Sep 10 '12 at 14:41

How does Linux mean software is a consideration exactly?

(Sep 10 '12 at 16:27) Drmgiver Drmgiver's gravatar image

Sometimes it needs to be emulated. It still works but it slows it down. There's also plugin issues with open source software. I don't like it but still it's there.

(Sep 10 '12 at 18:13) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image
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