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My phone wall charger output is rated at 1A. If I were to buy another wall charger for the same phone, do I have to keep the rated output the same? I do know, however, that the charge time will decrease if I increase the amp output and vise versa. Is it safe for the battery to charge faster? Slower?

asked Oct 20 '12 at 20:33

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Wall outlets are generally voltage regulated, you can get any amp rating you want, the device will draw the same current regardless (or at least it should.) Just make sure the voltage is right (5V)

answered Oct 20 '12 at 21:47

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You must get a charger of the same voltage and atleast the same amperage minimum. If you get a charger that supplies less amperage then you can burn out the charger or damage the device. If you get a charger that can supply a greater amount of current your device will be fine as it can only draw what it will use. It will not force any extra current through your device. The amperage rating of the power supply is the maximum amount of current the power supply can output, not what the output is. Think of any usb device... most want tiny amounts of current but nowadays, most newer PCs can send several amps to the usb port to fully support power hungry IPads. This available current does not damage any other thing you plug in (like a usb led light or keyboard, mouse, controller) The devices only draw what they are designed to use.

so summary: the power supply must have the same voltage rating and have the same or greater current rating or you risk damage to both the power supply and the device you plug into it.

answered Oct 20 '12 at 22:38

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So I happened to borrow my friend's wall charger to charge my phone. I noticed that their charger was less than half the amp output than mine. It was pretty useless because the phone took forever to charge about 5%. I only used the charger for about a few hours. Could of this been bad for my battery?

(Oct 21 '12 at 10:40) rocketnater rocketnater's gravatar image

it is only bad for the battery as it isn't charging it... It is bad for the charger as it can burn it out by trying to draw more current than the charger can put out... I am going to have to guess that the charger was kinda warm when you unplugged it... If you have a usb cable for your phone try plugging it in to your pc and charge it from there. (Thinking about the slow charging you did... I have never heard of a battery being hurt from slow charging, only fast charging. Fast charging requires a higher voltage than the battery nominal and thus a higher current gets pushed backwards through the battery causing more heat and wear on the battery)

(Oct 21 '12 at 10:49) Billtopia Billtopia's gravatar image

"It is bad for the charger as it can burn it out by trying to draw more current than the charger can put out..."

In which case the design of the charger is pathetic, chargers should have over current protection where they will just shut off. This comes from one of the last devices in the chargers which is the voltage regulator. If the phone is charging to much current the regulator should shut off.

(Oct 21 '12 at 22:34) trueb trueb's gravatar image

And if the regulator does limit the current, and it doesn't just one shot, it would cycle the charger on and off. This would still cause the charger to overheat and possibly burn out. That is why when you replace a charger you replace it with one with the same or greater current capacity. By definition the charger is not designed to be ran at greater than its rated capacity.

(Oct 22 '12 at 10:08) Billtopia Billtopia's gravatar image

and also... why should the manufacturer have to put in safeguards such as overcurrent protection to protect the consumer from themselves? There is a current rating on the power supply for a reason. It is not their job to make sure that you use the correct charger for your specific device. That is part of standardizing the plug... If everyone uses the mini / micro usb connector. Standard USB 2.0 current limit for a device is 500 mA. If your device draws more than the standard it is not the manufacturer of the chargers fault, nor is it their job to foresee this. It is your job to get the proper charger for your needs and not to pass the buck to the charger manufacturer if you purchase the wrong one and it damages the charger or your device. They put the rating on the charger for a reason. You cannot say that their design was flawed or crappy or pathetic if you do not use the device as the manufacturer intended. That they have no control over how you use something after you purchase it is not their fault. It is the consumers responsibility to get the proper charger for the device, or do you think everyone should be audited once a week by the technology police to make sure that you have all your devices, software, and files installed in the recommended way? There is also a third way, where you plug in a device and it tells the power supply what it requires from it and the power supply would then respond to the device whether or not it could supply the requested power. If it could then it would start supplying it, if not the device would get nothing. That would raise the cost of the power supply by quite a bit of money and most everyone would be unwilling to pay extra for the convenience of it. (They have been working on this system of smart power for your home for some time now)

(Oct 22 '12 at 12:20) Billtopia Billtopia's gravatar image

Isn't there an issue of Negative pin vs. Positive pin, I.E. polarity? Or did they finally standardize that?

I'm an old fart, used to buy "universal" chargers at Radio Shack and they had it so you flipped the connector based on what the polarity your device needed.

answered Oct 21 '12 at 22:28

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edited Oct 21 '12 at 22:29

all chargers (but blackberry and iPhones) use micro USB, they should all be the same now. In any case a well designed phone should have input protection to prevent such a thing from happening.

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