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I have installed Zorin OS on my desktop, after removing Vista, and moving to Zorin. When I did so, everything went well, but I can't update the operating system, because it keeps saying that there is not enough memory on the computer, and that some programs need to be removed. The fact is that there is hardly any software on there, and I have a 500GB Hard Drive on the computer. I was wondering what I can do to make so I can update the computer? Any help and suggestions would be great.

asked Nov 23 '12 at 17:06

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Is this memory as in storage or memory as in RAM?

answered Nov 23 '12 at 17:11

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It could be the RAM. Because when I fixed it I took out half the RAM because it was faulty.

(Nov 23 '12 at 19:14) Curtis Coburn Curtis%20Coburn's gravatar image

It sounds like more like a storage problem here. When you had formatted the drive itself was there anything in regards to how it was formatted. Or was the filing system was left as it was when you had Vista on it. I remember with earlier versions of Linux just before some where just before it actually formatted the drive itself that there was something with the sizing of 16 or 32 bit format as an example. And how much is available free space on it after the install? It might be something as simple as reformatting the drive under the ext3 or ext4 for filing system for it. Since it is the native format for some Linux Distro's.

answered Nov 23 '12 at 21:09

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Okay so how would I go about reformatting the hard drive?

answered Nov 23 '12 at 22:06

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Okay Curtis. Back up all your data if you have any on there already. Use a usb key or a external hard drive to transfer it over so you don't loose the data you need. It will depend on the amount of data you have there already. Then disconnect the data away from it. Get your Zorin CD of Linux. And wipe the drive clean and install a fresh version of it onto the drive itself. The reason why I am saying this is the feeling that I have here is that your still using the NTFS filing system from Vista. Even though Linux can read and write to it without a problem to it. It is not the native format for it. I usually when doing a installation of linux on a laptop or a desktop is use the native ext3 or ext4 format that Linux uses to keep the files on it.

I know it is probably not what you wanted to hear. But as you already know it doesn't take that long to install Linux on your computer. I've done it on my as well 20-45 minutes maximum to go through the reformat and a fressh install with the updates for it right after the installation.

answered Nov 24 '12 at 15:16

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Removing half of the RAM not only decreased your memory by 50% it also decreased your memory speed by 50%. This happens because your memory is no longer present in two channels and can no longer run in dual channel mode. I think your problem is a RAM issue. It's the obvious bottleneck.

answered Nov 24 '12 at 17:28

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There were 4 sticks of RAM in the computer and I did take out 2 that were bad. Do you think I can install a operating system on the computer that will make use of the RAM?

(Nov 24 '12 at 18:45) Curtis Coburn Curtis%20Coburn's gravatar image

Did you run memtest? Are the sticks in DIMM slots 1 and 3? If the RAM isn't installed into both channels it won't run in dual channel mode. How much RAM do you have in your computer now? What type and speed is it?

Going with a lighter distribution could be an option. If your computer is modern, RAM may be reasonably priced.

(Nov 24 '12 at 20:33) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

There were 4 sticks of RAM, I took out 2. There were 3 GB of RAM, I'm guessing at 1333. Take away half, there is now about 1.5GB of RAM. I may need to take one out, and put it int he other channel, because the two are next to each other. Which I am guessing is the same channel.

(Nov 24 '12 at 20:58) Curtis Coburn Curtis%20Coburn's gravatar image

How does removing 1.5 gigs of ram restrict you in updating or patching the version of linux that your using? in your initial post it was requesting you remove unwanted programs. (Which resides on the hard drive.) Removing ram should not stop it from patching or updating the version that is installed. Beside lower the memory that is available for the operating system to use before it goes for the swap partition.

(Nov 24 '12 at 22:39) Compucore Compucore's gravatar image

I don't know how it does. I'll just have to tinker around with it and see what I can do to fix it.

(Nov 25 '12 at 01:52) Curtis Coburn Curtis%20Coburn's gravatar image

The RAM also needs to have the same capacity. A 1gb and a 512mb won't run in dual channel mode. That could very well be what's slowing you down. 2x1gb is a good configuration for light to moderate usage. Compucore does have a point concerning the inability to update. If you didn't create a swap partition I would expect the install to be essentially unusable. I would suggest a swap partition of 4gb. If you need help with partitioning; there are a lot of video tutorials to be found. A good place to start would be: 1)swap partition "page file" 2)root partition - main body of the OS 3)home partition "my documents". Having a home partition allows you to easily access and make changes to your home folder. If you don't create a home partition the home folder will be installed to the root partition and may require a password each time you access and make changes.

So may I ask how you knew the RAM was bad?

(Nov 25 '12 at 09:32) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

Thanks ClosedFuturist. Yes that is where you can go in order to create the extra partition. Also if you mark the partition /swap it'll create the swap partition that way as well.

(Nov 25 '12 at 10:10) Compucore Compucore's gravatar image

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Lucky guess.

(Nov 25 '12 at 14:09) Curtis Coburn Curtis%20Coburn's gravatar image

I would try running memtest. Most linux distributions add it to the bootloader. If it's not there it's free and open.

(Nov 25 '12 at 20:43) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image

I remember seeing something on distrowatch.com they had a cd with a collection of things for the computer including memory testing like you have mentioned there Closedfuturist. I think this was the one I remember burning it once time and had used it several times.

http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage

(Nov 25 '12 at 22:29) Compucore Compucore's gravatar image

Yes. I heard about that distro of Linux. It does nothing but test you're computer to see if there is a hardware issue. But you need a CD. Which I have none. CD's are old. I use USB.

(Nov 26 '12 at 17:12) Curtis Coburn Curtis%20Coburn's gravatar image

Curtis I believe on that link that I have provided there is a usb version of it if you ned to put it on a usb stick. But as for many people to each their own when it comes to using CD/DVD's. I still prefer on a personal basis cd/DVD when it comes to testing and installing things onto a computer. I have had several USB stils die on me after a very short lifespan of usage.

(Nov 26 '12 at 21:08) Compucore Compucore's gravatar image

Here's where to get memtest.

http://www.memtest86.com/

To make a bootable USB

http://www.linuxliveusb.com/

LiLi probably works with System Rescue too.

(Nov 27 '12 at 08:11) ClosetFuturist ClosetFuturist's gravatar image
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