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Hey guys, I'm buying a PC (not ganna build it due to a lack of time and an overall lack of knowledge in the art of assembly, that's final). So, I would like to get some tips on where to buy, what to buy, etc. (I just have a couple of easy questions that should fill in the gaps).

Any good websites that you have had the pleasure of using? I live in the EU, so international sites would be great (Lithuania, to be exact.)

What's the best way to find out what components the PC uses? I might buy a cheaper PC with an i5 and an intel hd 3000 GPU, use it for a while and buy a normal dedicated graphics card whenever I can, but the issue would be the motherboard (as weird as that sounds) and the PSU, so I wouldn't want to buy something that I couldn't upgrade in the future.

Branded PC's? A lot of "big names" sell fully built PC's that look good and probably run good, but how much am I paying for the PC and how much am I paying for the brand name? Any brands that I should avoid or lean towards to? Should I buy PC's straight from the manufacturer or should I look for a retailer?

Okay, some info: I'm willing to spend around 1000USD as the initial price and then some for upgrades (later on in the future). I'm going to use it for video games, programming and editing.

Thanks

asked Dec 22 '12 at 09:11

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edited Dec 22 '12 at 09:13


I am posting this because I could not find any gaming PC at $1000 that is worth anything even close to $1000. (if you thought apple tax was bad, it gets even worst with prebuilt gaming PC's)

(how the hell can they justify charging $1000 and giving a mid range CPU, a crappy GT545 or a radeon 6770, 8GB of RAM and only 1TB of storage. Unless the motherboard is made out of solid gold, I cant see where that price is coming from)

Keep in mind that if you are not good at building PC's then you will need to buy one that comes with a good power supply. If you go with a cheap non gaming system and get stuck with a crappy 300 watt power supply then your next upgrade will have to also include a new power supply at which point you have already done half of the work needed to build a computer.

I know you would rather buy and are don't really want to change, (if you were to spend like 20 minutes learning about or taking apart an old system, then you would be able to use that knowledge to build almost any other system (computers are not as complicated to build as they were in the 80's)

Builging a PC is really not that hard, if you have played a nintendo, or SNES, or gammeboy, or GBA, or nintendo DS, then you know how to build a computer

99% of the connections only fit in one way and are color coated and have unique shapes.

The CPU is easy to install if you can match 2 arrows

the only part that is not shape unique is the case connector, which are color coated and labeled, just match the labels and you are good to go.

Most gaming systems have the bare minimum power supply making almost all upgrade require a new power supply. they also often give you cheap motherboards, (eg most sub $1000 gaming PC's will have a cheap motherboard with 85C and a few 105C caps, 4+1 phase power (meaning don't expect to get a good overclock), very few features, poor cooling designs, very little storage compared to a custom system, very little RAM, or if they give you a decent amount like 8GB, then they will give you like DDR3 1333 memory, or DDR3 1600 with crappy timings like 10-11-10 and it would perform like cheap DDR3 1333 memory, and will not handle overclocking.

On top of all of that, the parts will have OEM tags which means that you will not have any part warranties, you will just have the overall system warranty of like 1 year, while a custom system will have RAM with a lifetime warranty, a motherboard with a 3-5 year warranty, a Hard drive with a 5 year warranty, A CPU with a 3 year warranty, A CD drive with a 2-3 year warranty, A case and fans with a 2-3 year warranty, and a power supply with a 5 year warranty. And best of all, if something fails you are not packing up the entire system and spending like 50 euro's or dollars to send it in, just to replace a part under warranty that cost like $25 (not to mention that you will be without the entire system for 2-3 weeks, while with a custom system, you replace the broken part and RMA it, then if you want, you can sell the RMA part to recoup some of your money, or just keep it as a spare.

If you truly cant take the time to build, then just go with a gaming system that list the motherboard model and has at least a 600 watt power supply so you know you can upgrade with out having to replace half of the system.

If anything, at least find an older system in the trash or something that you can take apart and put back t0ogether to learn more about how they are built.

answered Dec 22 '12 at 16:26

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edited Dec 23 '12 at 02:39

Ah, I know people from Lithuania!

Don't be fooled by people on Lockergnome that will say "Buy a Mac, it's the only good computer" and even PC users on this site will say "If you didn't build it, it sucks" because that's pure garbage and happens way too much around here.

You can get a decent PC from http://www.tigerdirect.com or http://www.newegg.com which most likely ship there, for like $700. Look into Acer, HP and Dell computers.

Here's some examples of decent PCs from those websites


TigerDirect Acer Aspire with Windows 7 Home Premium, 2TB HDD, 8 GB RAM and Core Intel i5

-- http://goo.gl/icPfj

Newegg HP Envy with 10GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GT 620, Intel i5 and 2TB HDD

-- http://goo.gl/fIZrO

answered Dec 22 '12 at 09:57

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edited Dec 22 '12 at 09:57

I know a fair amount about computers and tech stuff in general, it's just that I don't want to waste 1k in parts and mess something up. As for the Mac stuff, I don't have one and I don't plan on getting one (personal preference). Newegg is US only, tigerdirect seems to be an okay site.

~edit~ Nope, I don't think that tigerdirect ships to my country.

(Dec 22 '12 at 13:46) EchoShot EchoShot's gravatar image

Honestly I don't think you need to buy online. If you do not want to build a computer, then I suggest that you go into a computer store in your local area. There you can ask employees about the computer, and you will actually be able to see the computer yourself, and even get to take a look inside the computer. Be sure to ask them if you can upgrade parts later. This way might be better for someone like you.

answered Dec 22 '12 at 14:45

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For whatever reason, the PC prices in my country are over the top. It would be cheaper, easier and just flat out better to buy something online, from the other side of the world (the employees tend to BS you if they see you are oblivious when it comes to computers).

(Dec 22 '12 at 15:22) EchoShot EchoShot's gravatar image
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