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I have an iBook G4 and was wondering if they make an SSD I can put in it.

asked Jul 15 '10 at 20:35

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What does "SDD" stand for?

(Jul 15 '10 at 22:39) Seb Seb's gravatar image

SSD stands for Solid State Drive

(Jul 15 '10 at 23:08) Leapo Leapo's gravatar image

Someone edit the Q. it says SDD when its supposed to be SSD

(Jul 16 '10 at 01:46) Matthew B Matthew%20B's gravatar image

Leapo: I asked what "SDD" stands for, not "SSD". I figure the author meant "SSD", but I'm not 100% sure ;) All of the answers make that assumption.

(Jul 16 '10 at 01:48) Seb Seb's gravatar image

Ya meant SSD just relized today that I was wrong about the acronym. lol

(Jul 16 '10 at 18:53) sulljason sulljason's gravatar image

IDE ssd's are really overpriced especially since the technology is cheaper

PS if you have a desktop computer, you can get a SATA to ide adapter from ebay, there like $1 and work pretty well (only problem is during the bios detection step, it will hang there for a while).

answered Jul 15 '10 at 21:05

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It's for a laptop. Cause I just bump is a lil and the HDD stops reading. And SDD are faster.

(Jul 15 '10 at 21:35) sulljason sulljason's gravatar image

Prove it. In order to prove it, you need to go through every single SSD in existence and compare it speed-wise to every single HDD in existence. Prove that SSDs are faster.

(Jul 15 '10 at 22:27) Seb Seb's gravatar image

Don't they use less power because they don't have to move physical parts?

(Jul 15 '10 at 22:34) sulljason sulljason's gravatar image

Now you need to prove it by comparing every solid state drive (SSD, not SDD) to every hard disk drive in terms of: idle power and load power. You might be shocked.

(Jul 15 '10 at 22:42) Seb Seb's gravatar image

a quality HDD is faster than a cheap SSD (and the quality HDD is often cheaper than a cheap SSD) Many SSD's use less power than a HDD but there are some SSD's that will use more power (there most likely out of your price range unless you own your own oil company in order to fund getting a SSD)

(Jul 15 '10 at 23:15) Razor512 Razor512's gravatar image

SSDs idle cooler, but when on load run hotter. Furthermore, you can't defragment an SSD. Try telling me they're faster, cooler and consume less electricity when the drive starts getting so fragmented that the cache memory becomes superfluous. The SSD will still populate the cache memory with sequential information. Since the drive is heavily fragmented this process will be useless. Furthermore, the very fact that it's not possible to defragment the drive on the level of the underlying representation means when your SSD gets fragmented, you must erase the drive in order to restore its performance.

(Jul 16 '10 at 00:32) Seb Seb's gravatar image

Okay so go with a fast HDD cheaper and faster then a cheap SSD?

(Jul 16 '10 at 18:55) sulljason sulljason's gravatar image

in your case, you wont find a fast ssd in any price range for your laptop as it does not support sata. but on top of that, even if you did have sata, if you get a cheap SSD, you will have worst performance than if you were to get a quality yet cheaper HDD

many cheap SSD's will have read speeds close to that of your average HDD but write speeds that really suck, and on to of that you are getting much less storage.

PS before buying any drive, always search for benchmarks. most advertised speeds are inaccurate. I had an ssd before by OCZ and I had to return it because even though they claimed nearly 200MB/s read speeds, it only did that for about 5 seconds before dropping slower than my 1TB western digital drive luckily refunded my money and didn't charge me a restocking fee.

(Jul 16 '10 at 21:26) Razor512 Razor512's gravatar image

Cheap HDDs aren't necessarily faster than cheap SSDs. Benchmarks can be twisted to report extremely unlikely scenarios, differ based on host drive controllers, etc. Don't just check out a benchmark. Ask a professional to DO a benchmark, using your system. That might be slightly more reliable, but it'll still give you a very narrow scenario which may be biased.

(Jul 16 '10 at 21:49) Seb Seb's gravatar image
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That seems like a silly idea. PATA topped out at 166Mbps (20MBps) between both devices on the ribbon. Being that many magnetic drives can transfer data at four times that (I've clocked my DeskStars at 70+ MBps), you would get no benefit whatsoever. I would look into buying a SATA controller card instead.

answered Jul 15 '10 at 21:36

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edited Jul 15 '10 at 21:36

I can make my laptop able to use SATA?

(Jul 15 '10 at 21:51) sulljason sulljason's gravatar image

tsilb: The latest versions of Parallel ATA support up to 133 MByte/s.

(Jul 15 '10 at 22:32) Seb Seb's gravatar image

@Seb: MBytes or MBits? What version is that?

(Jul 19 '10 at 18:16) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

All Compact Fash cards are technically IDE SSD's.

Compact Flash is electrically compatible with IDE, it just requires a mechanical adapter. This adapter should be small enough that both it, and the Compact Flash card can fit inside the bay where the old hard disk used to go in that Macbook.

answered Jul 16 '10 at 03:46

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CF cards die quickly though. a friend of mine who bought one and didn't like it because of how slow it was (nothing close to advertised speeds, ran a write benchmark on it for around a day and that was enough to kill the drive so he could return it under being defective that way the store paid return shipping)

a CF card will probably handle about a few TB over it's life time before failing, not suitable for a OS that will be writing many GB per day due to virtual memory and various other activity done on the computer.

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