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Many of you complain about the iPhone being restrictive, and that you don't like being told what to do. But personally, I like being told what to do from Apple, because Apple has these restrictions set in place so the iPhone is safe, and runs as advertised so it doesn't confuse and frustrate the user. This is why Apple approves apps....by the way, you might want to return your Android phone.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=10684130#post10684130

asked Jul 29 '10 at 13:58

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edited Jul 29 '10 at 13:59

The point is to protect the os.

(Jul 29 '10 at 19:51) MichaelTheGeek2 MichaelTheGeek2's gravatar image

That's not a question. At least say 'what's your opinion?', or something.

(Aug 04 '10 at 11:57) BrunoMCP BrunoMCP's gravatar image

Excuse me, Apple isnt safe. Comex injected the jailbreak source code on a pdf and made it possible to jailbreak from a iDevice without computer.

Apple security is bad.

(Aug 19 '10 at 04:27) iTechnologyz iTechnologyz's gravatar image

That is called a bug, which was fixed within a few days. Every software has bugs, but Apple's has the least so far that I've seen.

(Aug 19 '10 at 09:33) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

Apple has the least cause no one looks. lol But bugs are excusable because with 1,000s of lines of code things get very complicated. And it is really hard to find bugs.

(Aug 21 '10 at 03:55) sulljason sulljason's gravatar image

Even though android is an open source platform, Google still checks their applications before they go into the android market place. This was a slip up on googles end and something like this happend to apple a couple of weeks ago

answered Jul 29 '10 at 14:16

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That was phishing... Also, Google doesn't check there apps..they just require that the apps be signed now...which still isn't very effective against things like these.

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:22) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image
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Yeah, a similar thing occurred in Apple's App Store, so I guess I can tell everyone to return their iOS devices right?

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:22) eddieringle eddieringle's gravatar image

It didn't occur inside the App Store, it was people whose accounts got hacked by one developer who wanted to make money buy purchasing all his own apps on other people's iTunes account.

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:46) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

I'm referring to the flashlight app that acquired root capabilities to enable tethering (Apple is lucky that's all the app did). But thanks for giving another example of Apple's imperfection.

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:50) eddieringle eddieringle's gravatar image

Whoever told you that it acquired root access? That's completely false. It uses a SOCKS5 proxy, it's a way of Internet tethering that the iPhone happens to support.

(Jul 29 '10 at 16:29) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

Nevertheless, the app managed to circumvent the OS's security in order to enable it (IIRC, you have to purchase the tethering option for your AT&T plan before the phone let's you setup tethering at all).

(Jul 29 '10 at 16:52) eddieringle eddieringle's gravatar image

It is not native tethering. It did not enable anything in any other app. You had to have the app opened for it to work. Why don't you read some more about it?

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:11) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

It's also an example of how Apple's filtering isn't the end-all be-all of security for the iPhone. Applications that are against Apple's guidelines have slipped through on many occasions, the flashlight app being the most recent example.

In short, you're not safe just because Apple has approved the app.

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:45) Leapo Leapo's gravatar image

Actually you are safe. Apple has a kill switch feature, that they've used once, I'm guessing for copyright reasons on a GPS app. If an app ever slipped through that did malicious damage to a users device, or stole any personal information, the app would be removed from the App Store, and the kill switch feature would be used on that app. Furthermore, Apple has the developer's email address, credit card number, and billing address. They probably have your IP address as well, and the person would be caught, banned, arrested, and they would shutdown the server it was sending the information to. They would also refund everyone's money, or data that was stolen, and arrest every person who viewed the information besides the owner. Apple has done this with the phishing deal that happened on July 4, 2010.

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:50) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

How are we safe if an application can slip through Apple's filtering and be installed on hundreds of thousands of iPhones before it gets pulled from the app store? That's more than enough time for such an application to sneak sensitive information off your phone.

Thinking you're perfectly safe just because Apple is babysitting you is ignorant and foolish.

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:53) Leapo Leapo's gravatar image

You refused to read my post. Read it, then come back. If you did not understand stand it, then let me clear it up for you. Since it is against the law to do steal information, the government would get involved, and Apple is required by law to help the government with any cases if they can. They have all the information they need to track down where the data went, and you should have everyone arrested and all your money back within a week.

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:55) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

Do not assume. I read your post, but I happen to realize that this is not a perfect world.

Apple has information that they can hand over, but there's no telling if it's actually valid or not. People do not always use their real personal information to register for services (especially for nefarious purposes like those being discussed here). There's also the possibility of identity theft, where someone elses identity is used in order to cover the tracks of the actual offenders.

Like I said, thinking you're perfectly safe just because Apple is babysitting you is ignorant and foolish. Thinking that all criminal investigations are fool proof, even more so...

(Jul 29 '10 at 18:37) Leapo Leapo's gravatar image
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I get your excitement and wanting to tell everyone you can about this news, but um, what exactly is the question? I had thought this is a Q&A site, not a discussion forum.

answered Jul 29 '10 at 14:14

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Sometimes a post isn't in the form of a question, but rather a sounding board for discussion. This isn't Jeopardy =0p...

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:20) r0bErT4u r0bErT4u's gravatar image

Thanks for the warning, but I'd rather be in control of MY gear that I bought with my hard earned money. It's patronizing for Apple, Inc. to do what they do. It's like when some parents restricting kids from playing sports to protect them from harm, then show players who get hurt to prove their point.

People shouldn't be downloading willy nilly to their gear, anyway?!

Again, thanks for the warning =0p...

answered Jul 29 '10 at 14:16

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Well, then you just better be careful what you install. Also, most people like to find cool wallpapers for their device... I thought Android was all about customization to you?

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:23) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

If you really want to get technical, iDevices still can get PWNED via the unchanged default root password of "alpine". Malicious code could be sneaked inside a YouTube video, get played by millions of iDevices ...

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:32) r0bErT4u r0bErT4u's gravatar image

You don't get it do you. You have to be Jailbroken for that. Try to SSH into my iPhone 4.

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:46) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image
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The flashlight app that provided tethering acquired root access without needing the device to be jailbroken.

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:52) eddieringle eddieringle's gravatar image

AppleHack23,

As eddieringle stated ... the flashlight app installed onto non-JB'd iDevices.

Are you giving me permission to attempt to PWN any of your iDevices?

Don't worry, I wouldn't do that to you =0p...

(Jul 29 '10 at 14:55) r0bErT4u r0bErT4u's gravatar image

Yes. I want you to do that.

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:12) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image
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This is Google's problem, not Android's. The Android Market is a service provided by Google's Android team separate from the Android Open Source Project and is not part of the Android OS, but may come preloaded on Google Experience devices. Don't criticize the Android OS for something that is out of it's control. Besides, Apple screws up just as much as Google does in this department.

answered Jul 29 '10 at 14:28

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This is not out of Google's control, by the way, Android is a software, not a company. Something CAN be done about this...and the people at Google are a bunch of morons for not doing it yet.

(Jul 29 '10 at 17:13) AppleHack23 AppleHack23's gravatar image

What did you guys think he was going to praise android? His name is AppleHack123 what did you expect? He joined because he likes apple It's his opinions and there is nothing wrong with it For example most people with the name WindowsPraiser142 aren't going to say nice things about apple

answered Jul 29 '10 at 19:36

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edited Jul 29 '10 at 19:41

Hmmm... Check this out.

http://www.androidtapp.com/android-wallpaper-apps-falsely-accused-of-spyware-and-stealing-sensitive-user-data-fud/

I'll quote the conclusion"

True all users should indeed be aware of what they are installing from the Android Market. True the openness of the Android Market are its strengths and weakness as something like this could be exploited. In this particular instance… it may not be the case, especially for what seems like a developer trying to improve his app by grabbing device data to make a “favorites” feature in-app. Maybe his approach was suspicious and overzealous as Lookout corrected, but was the mass negative press without covering the complete story warranted???

answered Aug 19 '10 at 00:19

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edited Aug 19 '10 at 00:27

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