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What is your average speed when driving on the highway? What kind of car do you drive?

asked Aug 16 '10 at 16:23

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I always drive 10 over, with the following exceptions:

  • If I suspect a cop is nearby, I slow down to +5. If I'm certain, I slow down to the speed limit.
  • If the guy in front of me is going faster, and the guy behind me seems willing to go faster, I will go faster. The guy in front gets clocked and blocks the radar from hitting my car; the guy in back is easiest to pull over. The guy in the middle (me) is safe.
  • If I can reasonably argue that it's unsafe to drive so slow, I'll drive faster. For example, on certain California freeways traffic goes 85 in a 55 zone. If I went 55 on that highway, I'd probably get hit. Look up the "presumed speed limit" for details.
  • I'll slow down for safety problems such as bad weather/visibility/traction, wildlife on the road, and because the jerk in front of me just won't keep to the right except to pass. Even though he hasn't passed anyone in the past five miles.

I speed up and steer to within two feet or so when I pass bicycles. I'll share the road when they can go the speed limit.

answered Aug 17 '10 at 00:59

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Regarding your final comment -- Sigh. http://yieldtolife.org/ -- We have more than enough bullies on the blacktop; don't be one.

(Aug 17 '10 at 14:34) ageekmom ♦ ageekmom's gravatar image

Explain to me how it makes sense for a bicycle traveling at 15 MPH to use the road, where cars are going 60 MPH, instead of the sidewalk which isn't even in use?

(Aug 17 '10 at 14:50) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

"Do not to honk unnecessarily at cyclists. If the need does arise to honk your horn to alert a cyclist that you are about pass, do so at a respectable distance. If you are too close, the noise itself can cause a cyclist to lose his or her bearings and create a hazardous situation for both you and the cyclist."

You heard it here first folks. Bicyclists are weak and timid, and therefore unsafe to have on the roadway.

(Aug 17 '10 at 14:54) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

It is illegal to drive a bicycle on the sidewalk in many areas. They are called sidewalks for a reason.

(Aug 17 '10 at 15:04) ageekmom ♦ ageekmom's gravatar image

I treat bicycles the same way I treat any slow-moving vehicle: Get around it as fast as I can. They kill the free flow of traffic, which of course is the whole reason we have roads to begin with.

(Aug 17 '10 at 23:40) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

So you pass all slow moving vehicles within two feet? Nice. Glad I don't live near you.

(Aug 17 '10 at 23:50) ageekmom ♦ ageekmom's gravatar image

Actually, many slow moving vehicles are so wide that either they take up the whole lane or the drivers can't seem to keep them centered, so it happens more often than you might think. If you can't fit it into a lane or a parking space, it doesn't belong on the road. Unless it falls within the category of a big truck, in which case it should have to follow big truck rules.

(Aug 19 '10 at 12:18) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image
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@ageekmom, regarding two comments ago: It's also illegal to impede traffic and move slowly in the fast lane, but you never see that one getting enforced, do you?

(Aug 19 '10 at 12:41) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image
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Bicycles are vehicles. You don't drive vehicles on the sidewalk. As vehicle operators, cyclists have a lot more legal responsibilities than a pedestrian, and motorists have similar responsibilities. Don't get me started on the inconsistency of roadway law enforcement... it pisses me off to see a cyclist blow through a red light as much as it does when I see a motorist do it, and so forth. A lot of cyclists don't have the proper training to be riding their bicycles on the roads, but that very same thing is quite true of many motorists as well. Knowing all this, I don't see the point to trying to teach piss-poor motorists or cyclists a lesson when I encounter them, whether I'm on 2 wheels or 4. I pass them with a wide and safe berth and move on, having taking no more than 3 to 5 seconds out of my life instead of taking a life. It's really that simple.

(Aug 29 '10 at 14:30) ageekmom ♦ ageekmom's gravatar image
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@tslib about your last comment...why the heck would you steer within 2 feet of bicycles and speed up......you could very well end up severely injuring someone on a bicycle. that kind of driving is reckless and irresponsible

(Aug 29 '10 at 15:07) SJP SJP's gravatar image

@SJP: I know how to control my vehicle. Assuming the bicycle proceeds in a straight direction, I have more maneuvering space than I do when I park - Which is plenty. The point is to intimidate them off the road and onto the sidewalk where IMHO they belong.

(Aug 29 '10 at 23:53) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image
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@tsilb: You are an incompetent driver and your licence should be revoked. Cyclists, like other slow moving vehicles have a right to use the roadways and competent drivers are able to pass them safely when it's safe to do so. They don't hold up traffic - they are part of traffic. It is because of the lobbying of cyclists, esp. the League of American Wheelmen, that paved roads were introduced. I can and do drive motorcycles to 60 foot long buses and I would never countenance your behaviour.

And don't try the canard that 'I pay for the road through taxes and cyclists don't'. Gasoline taxes and registration fees don't come close to covering the cost of building and maintaining roadways. Cyclists pay sales and income taxes, just like you do.

And one more thing: the example you set could be followed by others. How would you like it if someone did that to your mother or father, daughters or sons, girlfriend, or wife? Or to you?

answered Aug 18 '10 at 00:09

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If I didn't think they had a right to be there, I'd be reporting them. Just seems like a more effective way to remove them, but as it stands I'm effectively powerless to do anything about them.

Yes, they do hold up traffic, the same way a broken old car holds up traffic if it can't go as fast as the other cars. I'm not sure what that sentence about motorcycles is supposed to say but I don't have a problem with motorcycles because they rarely get in the way.

Taxes: There's no point in arguing points I didn't make. My beef is that they slow things down.

I have never had a safety problem arise as a result of how I treat bicycles. I always look back to check, and they're always still upright.

People pass me all the time. I only go 10 over under most conditions. Many times, there are cars and motorcycles passing me at a speed delta of well over 20, just a couple feet away. The difference is that the vehicle I choose on the road is much safer to be in.

When I'm driving, I hate pedestrians. When I'm walking, I hate drivers. But who I always hate is bicyclists.

(Aug 19 '10 at 12:26) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

Within the speed limit, there are times I may be four miles over on faster roads, I try to stay at the posted limit and slower when raining dark etc...

answered Aug 17 '10 at 00:50

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Those people who think the passing lane is their private putt-putt cruising lane are far worse than someone going 10mph over the speed limit. Though speeding is breaking the law, so is appointing your vehicle "Interstate pace Car".

And don't get me started on people yammering away on their G-D cell phones!

In my 30+ years of driving I've learned to just get around and/or avoid these people as quickly as possible. And forget trying to "teach them a lesson", your better off trying to herd cats!

answered Aug 19 '10 at 09:25

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Well put.

Keep to the right except to pass. Slower traffic keep right. Do not impede traffic. It's the law; and not all laws make things worse.

(Aug 19 '10 at 12:30) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

I agree with tsilb. I go 5 over on 55mph highways and blacktops, 5-10 over on 65mph highways, and 10-20 over on those same 65mph highways where others are going that speed. If I suspect a cop, I'll slow down to just a few over, and if I see one, I'll coast down to the speed limit until I'm away from him. I don't have to do a lot of city driving, but I usually keep my nose clean there.

If there's an ass in front of me that's going below the limit and won't move over, I'll just go to the right lane, speed up to about 80-90mph and get past him, then move back in front of him and slow down. Then maybe he'll learn to get on the right side of the road. I don't have to do that TOO often though.

I drive an '05 Chevy Cobalt most of the time, and am '05 Buick LeSabre on long trips. The Cobalt is really fun to zip around town in and the LeSabre is nice and smooth riding, comfortable, and great for long trips, like the 5-6 hour drive to Chicago.

answered Aug 17 '10 at 02:17

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GavinRoskamp wrote:

If there's an ass in front of me that's going below the limit and won't move over, I'll just go to the right lane, speed up to about 80-90mph and get past him, then move back in front of him and slow down. Then maybe he'll learn to get on the right side of the road. I don't have to do that TOO often though.

In my world, this is called road rage.

(Aug 17 '10 at 10:19) infosynth infosynth's gravatar image
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@infosynth:

The problem is not the drivers who rage. The problem is the people who enrage us. We did not cause the rage, they did. Whatever happens after that is often still illegal, but let's be upfront and clear about where it comes from.

If someone were to punch me in the gut, and I responded with an uppercut that breaks their jaw, I am still in the wrong. But it's still the other guy's fault.

If there is traffic behind you, and there is no traffic in front of you, then you're probably causing road rage right now and it just hasn't had a chance to manifest itself yet. Move over.

(Aug 19 '10 at 12:34) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

Hmm... If you think your rage is uncontrollable, it's only a matter of time before that bites you back. There will always been an angrier dude than you on the road, and the angrier they are, the less it seems to take to piss them off.

(Aug 29 '10 at 14:33) ageekmom ♦ ageekmom's gravatar image

I drive a maximum of 5 over the speed limit, or with traffic flow, whichever is safer. I drive a Ford Escape Hybrid and since my fuel economy is better on city streets (stop and go traffic and under 40mph) than highways, I tend to maximize my driving on city streets. On the highway, I live in the slow lane unless traffic slows or I have an inattentive driver in front of me (cellphone or whatnot) in which case, if the fast lane's clear, I'll pass and move back into the slow lane away from the inattentive driver. Traffic in town is such that it's nearly impossible even for speeders to drive faster than 80mph on our highways due to congestion, including numerous gravel trucks and semis.

Bicycling aside: Please share the road. Bicyclists and all other road users pay taxes -- 99.9% of them are fellow motorists with a car/truck/van/SUV or two. Your vehicle is never meant to be a weapon or tool for "teaching" others lessons, particularly lessons that are based on nothing but false assumptions and a lack of education of the rules governing all road users.

answered Aug 18 '10 at 00:06

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Although I only have my permit so far, my parents usually seem to drive about 5-10 miles above whatever the speed limit. We have a Honda Civic.

answered Aug 16 '10 at 20:25

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Just a tad above the posted limit, I drive a ford mustang 2004 anniversary edition.

answered Aug 16 '10 at 23:02

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Usually about 5-10 above the limit on most highways. But on the interstate we tend to got 10-15 over the limit. Sometimes more depending on where we are, how big the city is and what time it is. We have a 1991 chevy conversion van, a 1976 chevy pickup and a 1995 dodge neon. What we drive on any given day just depends on what we'll be doing.

answered Aug 16 '10 at 23:35

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On long drives I usually will average 90mph on the freeways so I can get home faster, lol. Although it does put quite a drain on gas... The thing I hate the most is when I'm going 80-90mph and then some jerk that would normally be going 60 decides to catch me, pass me, and then slow down to the speed limit when he's right in front of me, which happens almost every time I drive.

Oh, and I drive a 2008 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 LTZ

answered Aug 17 '10 at 13:45

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edited Aug 29 '10 at 14:17

And then when you pass him in the breakdown lane and slow down to 30, he honks at you as if you were the bad guy!

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