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So this is a question to people who pirate copyrighted content or ever have pirated any copyrighted content at all. Why do [you] pirate content? Don't just say "because a pirate is free" because I think you'd be looked down upon. I want serious answers.

I've thought about it since I've been buying my media content fairly for a long time. So, community, why pirate content? Could it be finance? $0.69, $0.99, and $1.29 is too much to ask for? Does it make you feel stronger than the record labels? Do you just dislike iTunes Music Store or music stores in general? Perhaps it's tempting, like gambling, where once you do the dirty deed once, you'll want more? Or is it that you just want to take your chances until some government agency heads to your home to reward you as the next top pirate? [The last one is scary, but as far as I know, I've seen "visited" people over in Hong Kong quite a few times. They're having fun where they're going.]

asked Sep 03 '10 at 17:46

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$1.29 for music! where do you shop?

(Sep 03 '10 at 19:45) markd12 markd12's gravatar image
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iTunes Music Store most of all.

(Sep 04 '10 at 10:11) Tsuimonster Tsuimonster's gravatar image

I really don't think people would want to openly admit to pirating anything, since it is illegal. Personally, I'm not going to say if I do or do not, but I will give what I feel can be valid reasons.

There was a big problem back in 2008, going around where EA would only let you install Spore three times. This included computer upgrades (like reinstalling Windows), and other personal computers one might own through out one's house, to make the total. This tight reign in DRM led people to download pirated versions that no longer had this DRM protection, even after legally owning it! EA loosened the reigns and allowed for a total of five computers to have it installed at a time, and an unlimited amount of reinstalls. The Los Angeles time wrote a good article on this

Back before Amazon sold digital music, there were very few places selling digital music. iTunes had the market cornered for a long time, because of the DRM technology. Vendors were willing to get in the iTunes store because of the protection in place--this idea was very new at the time. People that owned iPods were fine, but those others that owned something else, like a Creative MP3 player, were left out in the cold. What else was there to do? People will find way to get what they want, and the easiest way always rises to the top. Instead of trying to remove the DRM from the files (which is easy today), music became pirated, and quickly. It was open, worked on any MP3 player, and just so happened to be "free."

Today, the same has happened with movies. Hundreds of thousands of pirated movies downloaded each day, because people want to use media how they want to use it. Want to store it all on a huge 1TB HDD, instead of lug around a suitcase full of DVD's? There's really no other legal option right now. Streaming, sure, but that has its limitation, such as bandwidth. Everywhere doesn't have always-on connections with enough bandwidth to stream content at a pleasurable viewing experience. Once the movie industry starts to realize what the music industry has realized, it will become easier to use movies as you'd like--not as the movie industry would like you to!

Cater to user, and they will be willing to pay--that's why donations work, because if you do something good for enough people, they will be willing to pay. Some people swear by the "pay as you like" or "feel that it's worth" structure. It can bite you, but it can reward you immensely. With great risk often comes great return.

You want to stop piracy, make it easy for the user to get what they want, use it how they want and where they want. They will pay for it, often times out of gratitude.

Yes, there are people who just like to pirate things because it's free. But, in my eyes, there are a lot of people that pirate content because of the limitations on the content.

PS. Go to other countries if you want to see piracy. Go to under-devoloped countries and see a guy selling movies for $3 in a shop--a actual store front--not just a blanket on the ground. Middle Eastern countries are bad about piracy. Don't think the U.S. makes up the majority of pirates--those lie elsewhere. Yet, we Americans get treated as pirates, when we normally pay for our products, far more than people from other countries. I've seen this first-hand.

answered Sep 03 '10 at 18:33

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I pirate because i cant afford to pay £30 - £2000 for software. I am only 14 and i have very limited money. I wont be making any money from the software, and i wouldnt be buying it anyway, so form my view, i dont think that i am losing them any money. i dont actually pirate that often

answered Sep 04 '10 at 10:33

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That's no excuse for pirating (STEALING). When I was your age I mowed lawns collected cans or anything else to make money.If I wanted or needed something I found a way to earn the money to get it. I think people are lazy today and don't want to work for anything,just my two cents.

(Jan 27 '11 at 12:02) Blake Blake's gravatar image
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I disagree with the whole "stealing" metaphor. If I steal a car, the owner will be deprived of the car. A more apt metaphor is the owner creating a copy of his car and giving me the copy. The owner is free to continue driving the original car. The car manufacturer doesn't lose money because I couldn't afford (or wouldn't buy) a Mercedes and would otherwise have taken the bus.

(Jan 27 '11 at 19:18) tsilb tsilb's gravatar image

I'll use your example of music, although this could easily be extended to movies.

You asked "$0.69, $0.99, and $1.29 is too much to ask for?" I answer with a resounding YES! I will never buy from iTunes or Amazon or any other digital music distribution service so long as they use those prices selling mp3s.

Mp3 is a lossy format, meaning that there is data lost in the compression when converting the file to mp3. CD's are lossless, and in fact are not compressed at all. Yet if I were to buy a full CD's worth of mp3's I would would be spending the same amount of money, including shipping in many cases. Yet I don't get the physical medium, I don't get the booklet that often comes with the CD, and I get the music in an inferior format.

Why in hell would I want to buy my music this way? I should be able to buy songs in a flac format, or at least in SOME lossless compression, and it should ultimately cost less than getting a CD shipped. Until then I will never pay money for music via direct download.

Now before everyone gets all up in arms, I do still purchase music, I just continue buying CD's like I did a decade and more ago. I then convert to mp3 or ogg (if my current mp3 player supports it) and store the CD in a closet.

My point is that I understand. I understand why all this piracy occurs. The industry has still not learned that blatantly ripping off the customer is bad news. The industry has still not learned that people will get their products with other means if they are not treated fairly. And in the case of gaming and DRM, that punishing loyal paying customers makes for one TERRIBLE business model.

Please forgive my rant, but this stuff really bothers me.

answered Sep 03 '10 at 21:24

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I will continue to purchase real media before I pay the same price for a lower quality download, not sure where they got the idea that people would wish to pay the same price for not just less as it is digital, yet at a lower quality as well. I imagine the millions of people buying it would be a sign, I am not one of them.

I am mostly thinking about movies, most the time I can get the real media cheaper then the lower quality download anyway.

(Sep 03 '10 at 22:14) Xiro Xiro's gravatar image

'Piracy' is just another word for 'Stealing', 'Shoplifting', etc. In some cases these thieves are diagnosed with having the mental disorder, 'Kleptomania'.

Kleptomania (from Greek: κλέπτειν, kleptein, "to steal", and μανία, "mania") is an irresistible urge to steal items of trivial value. People with this disorder are compelled to steal things, generally, but not limited to, objects of little or no significant value, such as pens, paper clips, paper and tape. Some kleptomaniacs may not even be aware that they have committed the theft[dubious – discuss].

Kleptomania was first officially recognized in the US as a mental disorder in the 1960s in the case of the state of California v. Douglas Jones.[citation needed]

Kleptomania is distinguished from shoplifting or ordinary theft, as shoplifters and thieves generally steal for monetary value, or associated gains and usually display intent or premeditation, while kleptomaniacs are not necessarily contemplating the value of the items they steal or even the theft until they are compelled without motive. Of all reported shoplifting, less than 5% are actually committed by kleptomaniacs.[citation needed]

This disorder usually manifests during puberty and, in some cases, may last throughout the person's life.

People with this disorder are likely to have a comorbid condition, specifically paranoid, schizoid or borderline personality disorder.[1] Kleptomania can occur after traumatic brain injury and carbon monoxide poisoning.[2][3]

Kleptomania is usually thought of as part of the obsessive-compulsive disorder spectrum, although emerging evidence suggests that it may be more similar to addictive and mood disorders. In particular, this disorder is frequently co-morbid with substance use disorders, and it is common for individuals with kleptomania to have first-degree relatives who suffer from a substance use disorder.[4]

These people steal because of their upbringing. That's what they know. In their eyes, they've done nothing wrong. It's these same people that wouldn't think twice about stealing office supplies from their place of work, taking your pen, not repaying a personal loan, etc.

answered Sep 03 '10 at 22:08

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Some people may not understand the consequences, feel invisible, feel it's not a crime because 'what's the problem if I just do it'. The connection to a real crime and piracy never seems to link to people.

Everyone who downloads content would never steal from a real shop, the anonymous nature of the internet makes people feel anonymous, although to geeks like us we know the opposite.

Not enough people get prosecuted so people who pirate never get deterred. Sometimes people don't want drm that comes with paid for software or the ties and limitations that sometimes gets put on software.

A lot of people download a lot to try before they buy, this is a thought shared by many of my piers who then find themselves going to more gigs as a consequences of their downloading.

They may also wish to try games before they buy to make sure that they work on their computers.

Pricing is a big part, people don't feel the product is worth the price and would buy it if it was lower.

answered Sep 03 '10 at 18:47

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I have admitted loads of times that I IIUKBlitzII is a pirate. But I don't like to brag about what I torrent and so on.

answered Sep 03 '10 at 19:42

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With regards music I was fed up paying £10+ for real cds and getting home and listening to them and realising I actually only like one or two songs on this.

So for me downloading music is sort of like a trial, if I really like the album chances are I'm going to buy the real cd cause call me old fashioned but I love having the physical album and the artwork etc.

Some bands that I would never EVER have bought their music I've downloaded and in turn liked them so much I've;

A. Went to their concert (Can't illegally download music tickets)

B. Bought merchandise (Which by the way is also ridiculously priced, £20+ for a printed cheap shirt)

C. Bought cds they had previously released.

So all in all most bands that I have illegally downloaded their work have HUGELY profited as a result of it.

Time will come when record label's realise the only way to "Beat the pirate" is by making music free, there is literally thousands of other ways to make money from music without selling the actual music.

answered Jan 27 '11 at 06:39

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Because some of them think they rule the world.

answered Jan 27 '11 at 05:08

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